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A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Oct 27, 2012 10:39:22 am PDT #21527 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

He usually forgets the Fringe liveblog posts these days because he's got so much else going on with the three sites. Guess no one reminded him this week. I don't know if he's been watching, but I don't expect him to make posts; he hasn't posted about Doctor Who either.


aurelia - Oct 27, 2012 10:42:33 am PDT #21528 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I don't care if he posts, but I do enjoy the liveblog.


beekaytee - Oct 27, 2012 1:09:47 pm PDT #21529 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I enjoyed Mockingbird Lane much more than I expected to, even taking into account my mad Izzard love.

It struck me as very Pushing Daisies in a way that totally charmed me.


Theodosia - Oct 27, 2012 1:23:29 pm PDT #21530 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I missed the first 20 minutes, but enjoyed it for what it was. The makeup on Izzard was just awful, but I suppose he was supposed to LOOK awful.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 27, 2012 4:10:40 pm PDT #21531 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

On the bright side, not as bad as Lea Michelle's on recent episodes of Glee.


sj - Oct 27, 2012 4:15:46 pm PDT #21532 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Theo, I think I read somewhere he was going to eventually feed again and de-age to his normal, non-makeup self.


Dana - Oct 27, 2012 4:25:04 pm PDT #21533 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

sj, I thought that was what happened at the end.

Eddie Izzard was definitely the best thing about it.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 27, 2012 4:57:30 pm PDT #21534 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Mockingbird Lane was...it was more Addams Family than Munsters. Which, you know, is cool because I always liked the Addams more than the Munsters but...Munsters was always about how normal they were despite the fact that they were monsters. This was more like a halfway between mashup. Which I guess could have been good as a series hook.

I would have loved to have seen Colin as Herman. That would have been great. But nobody is going to top Fred Gwynne. Fred Gwynne rocks!!


Typo Boy - Oct 27, 2012 5:52:55 pm PDT #21535 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I agree more like Adams Family than Munsters. But not really like Adams family either. I don't think there was a vision for this show. I mean Fuller did not want to follow the original theme, where they were externally monsters but in their thoughts and in their hearts a normal suburban family with a crazy uncle grandpa. And he did not want to follow the Adams family model where they were proud of what they were and considered the rest of the world the weird ones.

And probably he was setting up long term conflicts between a desire on the part of everyone except Grandpa to be normal with complete inability to BE normal. (I include Marilyn in that, because even though she lacked supernatural abilities she seemed to think like a Munster. Grandpa's murderousness is just one of his little ways, not something she likes, but not something she expects to stop) And that conflict would have been largely but not entirely in the form of conflicts between the rest of the family and Grandpa. But I don't think Fuller really had a feel for his characters or his world. None of them gave me the sense of "real people in weird situations" the characters in Pushing Daisies mostly gave me.

I'll admit there were some great scenes. White mist condenses into nude Lily Munster who is dressed by hundreds of jillifonts dropping on her and spinning her a white dress. That managed to be erotic and creepy at the same time. Izzard was great, and they all had moments. But mostly it felt forced and not very interesting.


-t - Oct 27, 2012 6:53:27 pm PDT #21536 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Godammit, Fringe, why you gotta be so sad? At least they haven't killed Broyles again. So far.