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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Sep 08, 2012 5:20:01 pm PDT #21052 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Doctor Who had

both Argus Filch and Arthur Weasley from Harry Potter! And Rupert Graves, which I knew about. Yum.

Uh, I don't know if it's aired in the U.S. yet.


-t - Sep 08, 2012 5:21:01 pm PDT #21053 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's aired, Dana. Blackfont away.


Dana - Sep 08, 2012 5:22:50 pm PDT #21054 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Okay! I mean, I don't have anything else substantive to say, but still.

Except I kind of love the idea of Rory as a Weasley.


-t - Sep 08, 2012 5:26:49 pm PDT #21055 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Now that you mention it, so do I.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2012 6:06:46 pm PDT #21056 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is this the picture, Julie?

How would you desexualise the scene? (I have a really hard time seeing Doctor/Amy, so this is only theoretical for me--her hair looks fabulous, but her upper body is entirely covered, and her miniskirt is canted away from the viewer. It's Amy unconscious--given they're not gonna fireman's carry, and that's her standard wardrobe, and that's not a sex look on 11's face--the only proper solution I see is not carrying Amy)


Zenkitty - Sep 08, 2012 6:13:25 pm PDT #21057 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The Doctor looks like a robot version of himself in that picture.

I don't find the picture intentionally sexed-up, but I do feel that the form of an unconscious, helpless woman is sexualized by our society and it's hard to get away from that.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2012 6:23:09 pm PDT #21058 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's clearly a heroic visual to me, but there's enough clarity of context for me that I don't see any subtext to it. It's pretty much just the TV carry, and that's how the guy is going to rescue the girl.

But not inherently that he's going to bed her--that would have to be deliberately added to this pic for me.


askye - Sep 08, 2012 6:54:29 pm PDT #21059 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I hate that picture because it's so...damsel in distress and I don't like it. It 's an image I've seen lots of places, or just the still and it was one of the first I saw for the season (which I haven't seen yet) and it seemed like. Amy is helpless and the Doctor is saving her. And that's not the dynamic that's been there and I just wish they didn't go there. Or used another image for the promotion other than the helpless damsel being saved by the strong man.


Typo Boy - Sep 08, 2012 8:54:24 pm PDT #21060 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Lost Girl: Grandfather? I didn't actually see that coming.

Me neither. But when Grandfather Trick talks about how smart Bo was I could not help thinking: "Ok, doting Grandpa. But still an impressive ability to ignore a huge pile of evidence."

For some reason, I enjoy the gaping logic gaps in this show. I guess it is like enjoying Cheetos, orange mess on your hands and all.


Typo Boy - Sep 08, 2012 8:59:36 pm PDT #21061 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh and one think I meant to ask. We had a test of the emergency broadcast system. It was while Bo had trade the aphrodisiac to the redcaps for Vex, and the redcaps were about to kill Vex and her and the Morrigan came in to kill everybody. And then just as the Morrigan was about to kill Bo, Vex backed her play. And the test started and when the program came back the scene was over. So did Vex explain why he joined Bo? Did he actually get that unless Bo killed the Garuda, the Garuda would kill everyone including him? So he actually backed Bo out of an ability to measure self-interest in a length longer than few hours? Or was it for some other reason, like protection from The Morrigan or the Red Caps? I'm pretty sure he gave an explanation (maybe not a true one) in the minute or so I missed.