That's true. But in the end nothing they've done is what causes the prince to come kiss them (or shoe them).
Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.
Cordelia ,'End of Days'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Amy - Aug 29, 2012 6:42:23 pm PDT #20959 of 30001
Because books.
-t - Aug 29, 2012 6:46:40 pm PDT #20960 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
The prince falls in love with Cinderella while they're dancing, surely that's all her.
Eta: Cinderella, like Beauty, is a merchant's daughter. Higher social status at the beginning of the story -> less agency?
Amy - Aug 29, 2012 6:52:04 pm PDT #20961 of 30001
Because books.
That's true.
The highest social status would be royalty, and that fits Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.
-t - Aug 29, 2012 6:56:48 pm PDT #20962 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Gretel was a take charge girl. And Red Riding Hood, in some versions of her story.
Zenkitty - Aug 29, 2012 7:24:24 pm PDT #20963 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Rapunzel was a farmer's daughter. She displayed some agency.
Polter-Cow - Aug 29, 2012 10:39:44 pm PDT #20964 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Vonnie K - Aug 30, 2012 6:38:54 am PDT #20965 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Not in the original, no. The Beast says she's not supposed to come if she doesn't want to, and she's not kept there, and if she had gone back to her family and not returned to him, she'd have paid no penalty.
That's... not like any version of B&B I've read/watched. In the story I remember, he tells her that *after* he gets to know her and realizes how much the separation from her family devastates her (I think her father falls ill or something?). At the beginning, she begs to go home and he always refuses. Ah well. I guess it's not surprising that we can't agree on the interpretation if the stories in our heads are different. Which is totally fine. Archetypal stories are subject to different interpretations depending on what the reader brings to the story, after all.
On a different topic: BBC America tells me that we are going to have the new Doctor Who this weekend. I think, on the same day the show airs over on BBC in UK? (I assume, several hours later to accommodate for the time difference.) I may just catch it on TV rather than trying to ahem it. Do they edit out any footage from the original version? I remember they used to do that for Spooks/MI5 and it drove me CRAZY.
Also, my cable company (Comcast) has HD version channel for *everything* except fir BBC America. Do they just not make a HD version of the channel or is it the whim of the local Comcast people that it's not part of the line up?
-t - Aug 30, 2012 6:40:55 am PDT #20966 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
DirecTV just got BBC America in HD this summer, possibly it is slowly rolling out on different providers.
Vonnie K - Aug 30, 2012 6:44:38 am PDT #20967 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Oh, good! I never thought I'd say this (mostly because I think it sounds kinda douchey) but once you go hi-def, it's difficult to watch anything less.
tiggy - Aug 30, 2012 7:02:54 am PDT #20968 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
i'm fairly certain they edit out, at least, a few minutes of the original airing for extra commercial breaks. that's why i've always ahemmed.