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Willow ,'Empty Places'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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§ ita § - Aug 13, 2012 9:17:12 am PDT #20781 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wouldn't go as far as thinking about long term care facilities--Jackson was there to see Lydia, right? When he used her computer? I figure they're just putting all the sick people in the same building.

I think Lydia and Jackson are supposed to be ridiculously spoil-the-kids rich, Allison is sensible-parents pretty-wealthy, and Stiles and Scott have parents who budget.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 13, 2012 9:21:05 am PDT #20782 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

-Jackson was there to see Lydia, right? When he used her computer? I figure they're just putting all the sick people in the same building.

Somehow I thought it was 2 different buildings until the reveal where Scott's mother sent the text-- and I was shocked.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2012 12:28:41 pm PDT #20783 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just discovered a need. Stiles/Kenzi.

Can someone make that happen? Please?


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2012 9:18:36 pm PDT #20784 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Aww, He has a yellow crayon/impala.

Okay, the fuck--clothes while they shapeshift? Only Jackson seems to have an issue, and I'm not sure if his is consistent.

That ended on a much higher note than I was expecting--major casualty Stiles' heart, and don't think that's not deemed as having value.

I like Lydia's arc a lot, and hope Jackson changed enough to catch up with her. It was hard to keep track oh how he was different, since he was spending much of his non-monster time freaked about that.

This pack of alphas--is that what the Argents came into town for? Or was their move triggered simply by the possibly Hale-related deaths and Derek being back in town (which was about that anyway).

Season 2 made me go back and rewatch 1, and seeing it through fonder glasses, but it will feel different with twice as many eps. I wonder how they'll split them, or if they'll run them as end to end as you can manage during summer. That would not be a complaint from me.

Still wondering why Boyd and Erica (like those two) decide to go off? He seemed to have come into his own, there at the end of S1, but now...(loving the interviews I'm hearing now.) I'd have bought his staying back and getting happy puppy times, not working out to be a beta in a group of alphas (OMG, the arguments at the dinner table). So that's a good setup for next year.

More thoughts, in better English, after I have accomplished a night's sleep.


Theodosia - Aug 14, 2012 2:27:01 am PDT #20785 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm guessing that Kate Argent was behind the Argents move to town -- she needed to tie up the loose end (Derek). I think that Peter Hale got busy about that time -- his first move seems to have been to give The Bite (as they say) to Scott, though.

Remind me, who killed Laura, Derek's sister?


§ ita § - Aug 14, 2012 4:18:19 am PDT #20786 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Peter did. That was an earlier move.

Also, wasn't the spiral on the deer earlier? Was that how he convinced Laura to come back to town? I was thinking that was his first move, but I'm not precisely sure when he started killing people related to the fire.


Theodosia - Aug 14, 2012 4:23:35 am PDT #20787 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Then I'm completely murky on why he killed Laura. Or for that matter, just let Derek know that his uncle was more or less alive.

Allison's completely justified in becoming an emotional basket-case: aunt, mother and grandfather killed in what, a three month stretch? She could completely dominate Lana (whose Parents Are Dead) in the angst-stakes.


§ ita § - Aug 14, 2012 4:55:47 am PDT #20788 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Laura was an alpha. He killed her for that.

I'm assuming her revealed himself to Derek to assemble his pack, since that seems to be a raison d'etre for all the wolves other than Scott, and that's because he has a non-wolf pack.

Man, my heart breaks for Stiles. Like, Scott is broken up, but he's not *sad*. Allison does have a lot to mourn, and she also has her own actions to process, don't get me wrong. But just seeing Stiles with hope go to Stiles "how can I even feel bad that Jackson's alive?" with no hope--poor thing. Where's the "You're a hero, Stiles Stilinski!" petition? I'd like to sign it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 14, 2012 6:22:36 am PDT #20789 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Okay, the fuck--clothes while they shapeshift? Only Jackson seems to have an issue, and I'm not sure if his is consistent.

The beta forms don't seem to change enough to mess with clothing aside from gloves - it's just claws and facial features. Only Peter Hale's full alpha transformations and Jackson turning into the kanima leave the concerned parties naked.


sj - Aug 14, 2012 6:47:45 am PDT #20790 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I called Allison's dad having to help Scott fight his father by the end of the season, somewhere upthread.

Man, my heart breaks for Stiles. Like, Scott is broken up, but he's not *sad*. Allison does have a lot to mourn, and she also has her own actions to process, don't get me wrong. But just seeing Stiles with hope go to Stiles "how can I even feel bad that Jackson's alive?" with no hope--poor thing. Where's the "You're a hero, Stiles Stilinski!" petition? I'd like to sign it.

Poor Stiles. But how awesome was Stiles's dad?