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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Fay - Aug 09, 2012 7:48:50 am PDT #20747 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

§ ita § - Aug 09, 2012 8:05:23 am PDT #20748 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It turns out that my back-button reflex from Winchesters-with-wings applies to Stiles-with-fangs. I do not want to read stories where he's been turned, whether he's the sassiest alpha that ever did snarl, or Derek's devoted beta, or whatever.

It goes too far away from what I like about the show, which is Stiles, even as he doesn't really believe he can, being of so much value just for his brains and his heart.

If the layout is that Scott is an alpha, and Stiles is in his pack, along with Isaac and whoever else stumbles by (I have no idea what's up with Allison right now--but I want her in, with Lydia and Kanima Jackson)...I don't know what that means for Derek, but I feel he's pretty clearly failed at his season of the alpha, time to let someone else have a go.


sj - Aug 09, 2012 8:08:58 am PDT #20749 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Can Scott just become the alpha? I thought in this universe you either had to kill the current alpha or had to create your own werewolves to become an alpha.


Fay - Aug 09, 2012 8:17:42 am PDT #20750 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oh DEAR, has it been that bad? I mean, unsurprising I guess but I still feel bad for the guy. Derek SO needs all the hugs, and a firm clip around the ear from time to time.

Yes, I would rather Stiles stayed human (were he a wolf, I think he might be more of an alpha than Scott, actually). What I'd like from fanfic at the moment is some good long Hale family backstory stuff - guilt-stricken Derek and bereft Laura on the road, clutching a few soot-smudged relics of their lives, like reverse Winchesters: hiding from hunters, saving things - tbe family business.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2012 8:17:45 am PDT #20751 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They were referring to Stiles and Allison, etc, as a pack, so who knows how far the metaphor extends.


Fay - Aug 09, 2012 8:45:28 am PDT #20752 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is season 2 over now?


sj - Aug 09, 2012 8:50:46 am PDT #20753 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Is season 2 over now?

The finale is next week.


Fay - Aug 09, 2012 8:52:31 am PDT #20754 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Aha! Cool. I'm hoping/assuming I'll be able to score DVDs pretty soon, then.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2012 9:03:04 am PDT #20755 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought this week was the last episode, with the way they opened it (reminiscent of the start of The Reichenbach Fall, but with more manic energy (aka Stiles)). But if that had been the cliffhanger...

Well, they can do one, but I don't like that one.

And I sorely hope, that unlike TVD, they do keep core members of the cast human. After admitting that Elena was supernatural by having her kill Alaric, and then vamping her on top of that, and Jeremy seeing ghosts, the town is running out of humans, and no one seems to care that some of the inhumans are actually monstrous to boot.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 09, 2012 9:49:13 am PDT #20756 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

We are assuming he bit Mama Argent, aren't we?

Yeah, but that was in a fight where she went all stabbity on him and was trying to murder one of his betas. I don't think recruiting her was his intent. It's ambiguous whether Derek wanted to send a message to the Argents by infecting one of their own or he he just didn't get in a good enough chomp to kill her.