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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Consuela - Jul 16, 2012 9:22:10 am PDT #20609 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I will say that I rather wish I'd stopped watching XF earlier than I did. And the one reason I can understand someone wishing a show cancelled is that the new route the show is following is retroactively screwing up the earlier storyline.

As a for-instance: if XF had ended in season 5, we would never have known that Carter hadn't the foggiest idea what was going on with the mytharc, and he was just making shit up as he went along.

Or in SPN, I had been pretty fond of the idea that the Winchesters got into hunting through a fluke of circumstance: that Mary's death was nothing more than chance malice on the part of the YED, and the story, for me, was in how John and the boys responded to that. So when they were informed that the boys were in fact descended directly from [memfault] and that made them perfect, special, angelic hosts, and that was why the whole thing had happened--well, in my mind, that rather screwed with my previous understanding of the show and its themes.

I'm not saying that that ruined the show for me, forever and ever, amen, but like reading the end of a book where the characters' motivations are turned on their head, it does rather challenge much of what I thought I knew and liked about the show.

So, in that kind of instance, I can see someone wishing the show had ended before that reveal. It's not rational, it's kind of petty, but I can see why someone would think that way.


§ ita § - Jul 16, 2012 9:52:53 am PDT #20610 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess you can't make a given piece of plot retroactively not exist, and it's not relevant to you that it improved the story for someone else, since you watch for you and they watch for them. But...if you can stop watching when it sours, yes, it's a bit late for you, but if the show had ended instead of kickstart Mary's place in the mythology and give her agency--well, I'd not be able to mourn what I didn't know--but this whole thing started from people asking about plot details after the cancellation points, didn't it? Oh, I'd want to cry. One simple revelation made me like the entire Winchester family (and some Campbells) better in one fell swoop.

Am I even gonna think that I should have not gotten than, and you should have had the show end first? No. And I'll say that the X Files should go on "too long" every time just to be consistent, and maybe someone else got something they valued out of the absolute dreck that made my eyes cross and my bile experience the Coriolis effect.


Consuela - Jul 16, 2012 10:14:37 am PDT #20611 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And I'll say that the X Files should go on "too long" every time just to be consistent, and maybe someone else got something they valued out of the absolute dreck that made my eyes cross and my bile experience the Coriolis effect

Which is a very sensible, consistent, and even generous statement. Just don't start expecting online fandom to be any of that, for that way lies heartbreak.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 16, 2012 10:20:39 am PDT #20612 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think Lost is the only show I've been fannishly into that I managed to just quit cold turkey. The Season 1 "all your questions will be answered" finale pissed me off so much that I was able to make a clean break.


Typo Boy - Jul 16, 2012 10:48:29 am PDT #20613 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm, so far I have not missed an episode of Lost Girl. It is addictive like certain kinds of junk food. And yet, like certain kinds of junk food, I would not go out of my way for it. When it finally ends there will be no metaphorical tears. I will never purchase and episode on iTunes or on DVD. But as long as it is available in the TV package I've already paid for I will watch it and enjoy it - even if part of the fun is inconsistent snarking. I still think ita !'s suggestion that the actress who played the firestarter Fae would have made a better succubus than Bo is a good one. Though not perfect. They are canonically going for "not very bright" so they need someone with that level of sexual charisma who is good at projecting "not very bright".


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 16, 2012 11:41:03 am PDT #20614 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Kind of like how Teen Wolf makes it a plot point that the lead character is sort of a well-meaning doofus, thus turning a weakness into a strength for Tyler Posey.


sumi - Jul 16, 2012 11:42:02 am PDT #20615 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Haha!

From Twitter:

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Tonight's #Eureka finale is our love letter to you. Lots of Easter eggs. We hope it makes you laugh and cry and miss our little town..


Typo Boy - Jul 16, 2012 11:57:41 am PDT #20616 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, Lost Girl they still needs a better actress with more charisma. What actress out there can play hot, well meaning,tough doofus?


Typo Boy - Jul 16, 2012 12:00:06 pm PDT #20617 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And looking forward to this last episode of Eureka, though sorry it is last ep. That series I would have paid money to have continue. Not low fat, not fancy, but not junk food. A really good Louisiana Oyster Po'Boy maybe.


§ ita § - Jul 16, 2012 12:22:26 pm PDT #20618 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure why Bo has to be a doofus, though. I'm not getting doofus out of the writing, I'm just getting blank slate out of the acting.