Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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sj - Jul 12, 2012 3:04:14 pm PDT #20534 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Compared to the dumb decisions Bo makes every day with her love life--enh. I'll give her that one.

Is that right from the beginning? I've only seen a few episodes, and she has just gotten to the point where she thinks she can sleep with humans without killing them so I don't know if things change after that.

Teen Wolf was renewed for a third season link. The third season will consist of 24 episodes, twice the length of the first two seasons.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2012 3:19:22 pm PDT #20535 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am entirely uninterested in Bo/Dyson/Lauren. I do like Dyson quite a bit, Lauren is starting to grate, and I'm relatively cold towards Bo in general. Call it the Kenzi-Hale show, and I'm all up in that shit.


Typo Boy - Jul 12, 2012 3:21:00 pm PDT #20536 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

You don't find Dyson kind of a jerk?


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2012 3:22:52 pm PDT #20537 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Bo could stand to take him at his word more.


Typo Boy - Jul 12, 2012 3:29:15 pm PDT #20538 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK no he is not currently being a jerk to Bo. He was only a jerk to Bo when he was in love with her. Now that he is being jerk to the woman who thinks he is in love with her. Doesn't he owe her the basic information that he fell out of love with Bo due to magic? Maybe even before he moves into a mansion with her?


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2012 3:31:02 pm PDT #20539 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think he was a jerk to her before because she wanted more than he was willing to give--when did he lie to her or treat her badly?


Typo Boy - Jul 12, 2012 3:34:07 pm PDT #20540 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

With Bo he was all "lets see other people. Wait you are seeing Lauren? We are done!" And he concealed a shitload of info from her at Tricks request. Not sure if the latter counts as him being a jerk or Trick being a jerk. But he definitely got pissed at ehr for keeping to the terms he set.


sj - Jul 12, 2012 3:36:42 pm PDT #20541 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

when did he lie to her or treat her badly?

He lies to her in the beginning when he says he doesn't want a relationship when it was really that he had orders not to have a relationship with her, and then sets it up so that she walks in on him with another woman.


EpicTangent - Jul 12, 2012 3:38:27 pm PDT #20542 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

It bugged me when he kept her at arm's length for so long without telling her why (Trick's orders), and that he used another woman to purposely hurt her rather than letting her in on what was up.

Doesn't he owe her the basic information that he fell out of love with Bo due to magic?

This one bugs too. Ciara so obviously feels threatened by Bo and by her and Dyson's Past. She might not seem so...I don't know...needy, maybe, if she didn't feel like Bo was a threat to her happiness.

Side note: I just caught up with some older eps, and you guys weren't kidding about how well Dyson's actor played Kenzi - he was amazing. I'd doubted his acting abilities up till then 'cuz Dyson's so low-key, but I'm 100% sold on the actor now.


Typo Boy - Jul 12, 2012 3:44:02 pm PDT #20543 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also: during the body switching episode Kenzie mentioned how "empty" it was inside him. And when Ciara asked him if he loved her, he replied something on the lines of "you have everything I have to give". So he knows he does not love her and is knowingly deceiving her. That makes him an extreme jerk towards Ciara. I gather he was a jerk with the Nymph too. Apparently he is only a jerk with women he is in a serious relationship with.