I suppose we could take it up with Olmos, since he was the director.
Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.
'Not Fade Away'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Theodosia - Apr 26, 2008 4:05:46 pm PDT #2046 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
JenP - Apr 26, 2008 4:18:06 pm PDT #2047 of 30001
I'm looking forward to the podcast to see if RM addresses it. I will be disappointed if not! But I will survive.
Kate P. - Apr 26, 2008 5:28:17 pm PDT #2048 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Doctor Who 4x04: That was fun! I especially liked the interactions between Martha and Donna. Donna is growing on me more and more with each episode, and I really liked her immediate warmth and rapport with Martha. Nice to see that Martha's engaged, too. And I'm totally a sucker for seeing the Companions with their families -- I love the contrast between the comforts of home and the dangers & wonders of travelling with the Doctor.
So those are the Suntarans? They're another old-school enemy, right? I suppose we can look forward to the inevitable Suntarans/Cybermen/Daleks battle before long...
Consuela - Apr 26, 2008 6:31:09 pm PDT #2049 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I'm a bit baffled by the theology here.
Tory says the Cylons are perfect. Or that she, at least, is perfect--she may just be speaking of the Five. Hard to tell.
Six in the brig--is that Caprica Six? I've forgotten--says they experience pain and loss, and the fact that they're learning, and learning through the experience of pain and loss, means that they were not at creation perfect, and may not be now. Which we know, experientially, is true--because if they were perfect, they wouldn't be killing one another, and they wouldn't have individuals disagreeing with others of their model.
Now Baltar announces that humanity is perfect, and that's because God loves him, and God cannot love anything which is imperfect.
I have two thoughts about this:
1. That Baltar's leading to the conclusion that humanity=Cylons. All the same thing. Which is certainly a creative solution to the argument, but one that only works if the Sixes win the little civil war they're having with Cavill and the others.
2. Of what value is a God who only loves that which is perfect? There's no grace there: he's saying God loves them because they deserve to be loved. Most human religions that I'm aware of acknowledge the imperfection of humanity, and urge people to be worthy of the love that God grants us despite our flaws.
Baltar's complacency here is kind of Calvinist, I think. No striving to be worthy of God's grace, just accept your place in the universe with no need to do any better.
I suspect this will make Lee's head explode, because Lee, of them all, is all about doing better. He thinks humanity can triumph over its baser instincts, and Baltar is saying the baser instincts are just fine the way they are.
Theodosia - Apr 27, 2008 1:37:45 am PDT #2050 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
It never occurred to me that the skinjobs are, in a sense, angels.
So no wonder they have a plan....
Fay - Apr 27, 2008 4:10:02 am PDT #2051 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Something tells me Dana will appreciate this anecdote about the Torchwood cast.
amych - Apr 27, 2008 4:13:35 am PDT #2052 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
... and not just Dana. EEEEEEE!!!! I'm dead from the goofy drunken cute!
Dana - Apr 27, 2008 6:00:46 am PDT #2053 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Awwww!
Tom Scola - Apr 27, 2008 6:56:00 am PDT #2054 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I don't remember the Sontarans being wee like that in the original series.
Glamcookie - Apr 27, 2008 2:46:32 pm PDT #2055 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
The Gaius scenes for me are easily the weakest, and messing with Head!Six even more so.
I am ita. I don't like the new comical tone they're taking with the character. It doesn't fit the mood of the show at all. Chief and Adama was sad. I'm not a big Chief fan, but I hated to see him throw it all away like that. I find myself not caring about Tigh/Six/Ellen story. I care even less about Lee. I only give a damn about Adama, Roslin, Athena, Helo, and Hera at this point. Sad.