Cordelia: I get it now. You're all spies. Probably all Russian. And you've brainwashed me, and want me to believe we're friends so I'll spill the beans about some nano-technology thingy that you want. Gunn: So I look Russian to you? Cordelia: Black Russian. Angel: That's a drink.

'Hell Bound'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Kalshane - Jun 03, 2012 4:50:08 pm PDT #20316 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm with you on Korra, P-C.

Who called Lin stepping down as police chief ending poorly? That didn't take too long.

And wow, Tarlock stepped completely over from power-hungry asshat to full-on black hat in this one.

I kept expecting someone to come in on their duel and for Korra to be arrested for assualting a council member (plus you know, serious property damage.) Actually hauling her out of the city himself seems a little too hands-on for him.

As much as I'm loving the hell out of this show, one thing that bugs me is the constant one-up-manship of things that went on in A:TLA.

  • Lightning used to be something only the best firebenders could do. Now any Joe Schmoe firebender can get a job at the local power plant generating lightning.
  • Aang was the only one in ages to learn how to spirit bend, but now Amon can apparently do it.
  • Blood-bending was incredibly rare and could only be accomplished during a full moon, but now Tarlock can blood bend under a crescent moon.

The metal-bending police I'm okay with because Toph actually created them. The rest of it feels too much like a DBZ-esque "Pitiful fools, my power level is 1 million!" thing.


Polter-Cow - Jun 03, 2012 5:06:14 pm PDT #20317 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Who called Lin stepping down as police chief ending poorly? That didn't take too long.

But really, he is the worst. Ever.

I kept expecting someone to come in on their duel and for Korra to be arrested for assualting a council member (plus you know, serious property damage.)

I was really afraid Korra would kill Tarrlok.


Dana - Jun 03, 2012 6:09:25 pm PDT #20318 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I kept expecting someone to come in on their duel and for Korra to be arrested for assualting a council member (plus you know, serious property damage.)

Me too.


Morgana - Jun 03, 2012 6:30:51 pm PDT #20319 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Did she do any genre work? I think I've only seen her in West Wing.

She (Kathryrn Joosten) has a huge string of credits, appearing here and there, although most of them aren't sci-fi related, but she did appear in an episode of Buffy ("Where the Wild Things Are" as the fanatical head of the orphanage that spawned all the ghosts at the frat house), so I guess that buys her inclusion here.


Consuela - Jun 03, 2012 6:51:31 pm PDT #20320 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Aang was the only one in ages to learn how to spirit bend, but now Amon can apparently do it.

I'm still not convinced that's what Amon is doing, since I think you need a special connection to the spirit realm to spirit-bend. OTOH, it doesn't appear to be chi-blocking because he's only touching their heads, right? I dunno.

I read some post on Tumblr about a really complicated theory involving Aang and Sokka and Toph at a trial 40 years ago, of a guy who was a bloodbender, and how Tarrlock is that guy's son. However the post didn't really give any evidence, so I'm still a bit dubious.

I wonder: waterbending has its bad side, with bloodbending. Do other forms have evil sides? Like could an airbender bend the air out of your lungs? Could a firebender stop the tiny little combustions going on in your cells? Could an earthbender bend the minerals out of your body?


Polter-Cow - Jun 03, 2012 7:10:26 pm PDT #20321 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I read some post on Tumblr about a really complicated theory involving Aang and Sokka and Toph at a trial 40 years ago, of a guy who was a bloodbender, and how Tarrlock is that guy's son.

Yeah, people are suggesting Tarrlok is Yakone's son, given that the general assumption is that the flashbacks are to Yakone's trial and we just saw bloodbending going on there.

Like could an airbender bend the air out of your lungs?

Fanon is that that's what Monk Gyatso did, why his skeleton is surrounded by dead Fire Nation soldiers.

Could a firebender stop the tiny little combustions going on in your cells? Could an earthbender bend the minerals out of your body?

I think it's not "bad" sides but enhanced sides, so firebending has lightning and earthbending has metalbending.


Kalshane - Jun 03, 2012 7:20:25 pm PDT #20322 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm still not convinced that's what Amon is doing, since I think you need a special connection to the spirit realm to spirit-bend. OTOH, it doesn't appear to be chi-blocking because he's only touching their heads, right? I dunno.

There is a theory that he's just doing really heavy-duty chi blocking. (He touches their head and--undoubtedly-not-a-coincidence--the back of the neck where a pressure point called the "amon" is located.) We'll have to see if that's actually the case. I'm certainly willing to accept it may be.

Still, the "previously rare abilities becoming common" on Korra seems a bit much. But I could be jumping to conclusions and it will be explained satisfactorily.


DebetEsse - Jun 03, 2012 7:32:27 pm PDT #20323 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Water also gets the healing and ice add-ons.


JenP - Jun 04, 2012 6:29:55 pm PDT #20324 of 30001

Eureka - what did Jack say to Allison in the preview? I liked a lot of the character interactions in this ep. I'm trying to figure out the last thing I saw the major in.


sumi - Jun 07, 2012 11:27:50 am PDT #20325 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Longer promo for Arrow.