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§ ita § - May 14, 2012 8:11:50 am PDT #20179 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Now, I've seen stories where EMPs just blacks out all electronics currently running, but everything is okay in the time it takes to reboot. And others where the EMP fries whatever is running sufficiently to damage it, and it can't just start back up. And whatever was off at the time is still fine.

How do EMPs actually work in real life?


Ginger - May 14, 2012 8:12:51 am PDT #20180 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My thoughts exactly.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 14, 2012 8:13:47 am PDT #20181 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought they tended to fry all conductive electronics that aren't specifically shielded against them, whether they were currently in operation or not?


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 8:19:55 am PDT #20182 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wikipedia to the rescue:

Typically in motion picture or electronic entertainment, the effects of an EMP are incorrectly shown as temporary. Another recurring misconception is the idea that EMP only affects active electronics

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Consuela - May 14, 2012 8:20:07 am PDT #20183 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

How do EMPs actually work in real life?

What Matt said. I think they really fry the electronics, or so I recall from the research I did a while back. The military has specially-hardened sites & resources to protect their stuff in case of an EMP.


Tom Scola - May 14, 2012 8:27:06 am PDT #20184 of 30001
hwæt

1859’s Great Auroral Storm


Ginger - May 14, 2012 8:36:03 am PDT #20185 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It's really hard to predict. A single continent-wide pulse is improbable, because the strength of the pulse is affected by distance. The scenarios in which bad guys set off multiple devices in different cities are more probable. Unless we're talking about some kind of alien technology, there would be equipment that survived. A number of power plants still have largely analog controls, but a lot of substations would probably be fried.


Jessica - May 14, 2012 8:44:06 am PDT #20186 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's the "and it will never come back on" that's the sticking point. I can buy some kind of worldwide blackout where everything stops working. A flobitinum goes off and all the electric things go boom, fine.

I cannot buy a scenario where this couldn't fix the problem at least temporarily.


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 8:58:54 am PDT #20187 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe no metals are conductive any more?

Magnets are broken?

Hey--they started it. I'm just looking for an explanation.


Jessica - May 14, 2012 9:01:40 am PDT #20188 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What happens in this universe if you rub a balloon on a wool sweater?