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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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sj - Apr 16, 2012 5:09:31 pm PDT #19950 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I don't think so (meaning: I think they did save her) -- I think they hijacked the Astraeus and hooked up the crew using the same tech they used on her.

So it was just the Astraeus crew that she had? I thought she had everyone, but I'm probably wrong.


-t - Apr 16, 2012 5:12:23 pm PDT #19951 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There were a BUNCH of people in the chairs. Probably not the whole town, though?


sj - Apr 16, 2012 5:13:22 pm PDT #19952 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Did they have Jack?


JenP - Apr 16, 2012 5:16:27 pm PDT #19953 of 30001

I think the Astraeus crew is bigger than it appeared to us during the lead-up to the mission, because they focused just on the main characters. That's my take, anyway. I was a little surprised by the number of people they had hooked up at the end there.


-t - Apr 16, 2012 5:18:57 pm PDT #19954 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The only individual I'm sure they have is Allison.

You could be right, Jen. I think we were told a number at some point last season, but I forgot what it was.


Theodosia - Apr 16, 2012 6:09:04 pm PDT #19955 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I think I vaguely recall ten or twelve -- there was a group picture at some point?


Jon B. - Apr 16, 2012 6:34:25 pm PDT #19956 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

This "things not being real" has the added benefit of being able to explain away huge plot holes. For example, wasn't it the DoD who put the Andys in charge? Why would they allow Fargo and his Insurrectionists (good name for a band!) to take over? Oh, wait! It's not real! See how convenient that is?


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2012 7:57:53 pm PDT #19957 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

DoD probably not that big on allowing AIs to stay in control by brainwashing people either. I'm sure at least a few people in the Pentagon still live in the 1950s when the threat of robot takeovers were a known risk.


Consuela - Apr 16, 2012 8:31:49 pm PDT #19958 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I saw Zane lying on the couch next to Allison, so I think it's clear they have the whole Atreus crew.

It's basically the Matrix, I guess.

... I admit I kind of bought the Jack/Jo relationship, and I loved Jo saying, "I fell in love: I didn't do anything wrong." It was, however painful, all very grownup.


Theodosia - Apr 17, 2012 2:48:54 am PDT #19959 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Yes, indeed.

The question remains is do they have the rest of the principle cast in their shared reality?

Loved Evil Andy(s) -- Kavan Smith was having way WAY too much fun.