You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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sj - Apr 16, 2012 5:13:22 pm PDT #19952 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Did they have Jack?


JenP - Apr 16, 2012 5:16:27 pm PDT #19953 of 30001

I think the Astraeus crew is bigger than it appeared to us during the lead-up to the mission, because they focused just on the main characters. That's my take, anyway. I was a little surprised by the number of people they had hooked up at the end there.


-t - Apr 16, 2012 5:18:57 pm PDT #19954 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The only individual I'm sure they have is Allison.

You could be right, Jen. I think we were told a number at some point last season, but I forgot what it was.


Theodosia - Apr 16, 2012 6:09:04 pm PDT #19955 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I think I vaguely recall ten or twelve -- there was a group picture at some point?


Jon B. - Apr 16, 2012 6:34:25 pm PDT #19956 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

This "things not being real" has the added benefit of being able to explain away huge plot holes. For example, wasn't it the DoD who put the Andys in charge? Why would they allow Fargo and his Insurrectionists (good name for a band!) to take over? Oh, wait! It's not real! See how convenient that is?


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2012 7:57:53 pm PDT #19957 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

DoD probably not that big on allowing AIs to stay in control by brainwashing people either. I'm sure at least a few people in the Pentagon still live in the 1950s when the threat of robot takeovers were a known risk.


Consuela - Apr 16, 2012 8:31:49 pm PDT #19958 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I saw Zane lying on the couch next to Allison, so I think it's clear they have the whole Atreus crew.

It's basically the Matrix, I guess.

... I admit I kind of bought the Jack/Jo relationship, and I loved Jo saying, "I fell in love: I didn't do anything wrong." It was, however painful, all very grownup.


Theodosia - Apr 17, 2012 2:48:54 am PDT #19959 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Yes, indeed.

The question remains is do they have the rest of the principle cast in their shared reality?

Loved Evil Andy(s) -- Kavan Smith was having way WAY too much fun.


Consuela - Apr 17, 2012 6:22:46 am PDT #19960 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Kavan Smith was having way WAY too much fun.

He totally was. I wonder how much more one gets paid for an episode in which one plays a series of clones?


Typo Boy - Apr 19, 2012 9:45:11 pm PDT #19961 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Caught up on "Being Human". I like the new ghost - Hal, Tom and whatshername make a good team. And I like the new villains. Bureaucrats acting for our own good, somewhere between Le Carre and Yes Minister. So though I agree with ita ! in not loving the whole time twisting plot, I think the next season (if there is one) is promising. Also, even though I was not fond of the overall plot, there were tons of good bits. "Hal is not a living being".

Also, at the end, was the man in gray just Mwah hahing before making the girl vanish in a puff of smoke? Or was he just making sure she understood all the way to her toes that she had to keep quiet. If the former, then he is less interesting, being unnecessarily sadistic by tormenting his victim mentally before killing or imprisoning her. If the latter then he is a more interesting villain - not crazy, sincerely convinced he is doing what needs to be done, doing it as humanely as possible, but still doing wrong.