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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Kathy A - Apr 23, 2008 6:59:36 am PDT #1972 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I've been trying to get my sister to watch the new Doctor Who eps, but she's such a loyalist to the old Doctor Who style that she won't really give it a try. As a result, she also avoided the first season of Torchwood.

Well, the fact that they brought in James Marsters was enough for my Buffy-loving BIL and sis to tune in to the first ep of TW S2, and they've stuck around for the entire season, really liking it. We discussed the finale last night--Owen's death wasn't a surprise to her, but Tosh's was. She couldn't believe that they offed two main characters at once.

I'm going to ship out my tapes of S1 and the Capt. Jack eps of DW S1, to see if they'll get sucked into DW as well. After "Blink" was first shown, I called and ordered them to watch it that night (they're two hours behind me), and they both loved it in its SF fabulosity.


Vortex - Apr 23, 2008 7:01:13 am PDT #1973 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

She couldn't believe that they offed two main characters at once.

we used to believe that only Joss could be that cruel.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 23, 2008 7:08:03 am PDT #1974 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

we used to believe that only Joss could be that cruel.

Heh, I was thinking about this while watching the TW finale, and I don't remember either Joss or Tim was ever cruel enough to off two main characters at one go - Serenity and (probably) Not Fade Away being exceptions, but also not just season finales (vs. movie or series finale). I'm sure someone will remind me if I'm mistaken.


Fred Pete - Apr 23, 2008 7:33:12 am PDT #1975 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

"Tabula Rasa" comes closest. Giles went back to England, and Tara broke up with Willow. While Giles returned, and Tara never went away completely, we couldn't be sure of either at the time.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 23, 2008 7:55:55 am PDT #1976 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But that chance they'd come back was there. Or should I say greater - this is Torchwood we're talking about, after all.


Vortex - Apr 23, 2008 8:36:29 am PDT #1977 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Or should I say greater - this is Torchwood we're talking about, after all.

yeah, I mean, it's not like Owen wasn't dead or anything.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 23, 2008 8:47:09 am PDT #1978 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

yeah, I mean, it's not like Owen wasn't dead or anything.

Owen, Susie, Jack (how many times?). Was Rhys dead, or just gravely wounded? I remember him being shot, but I thought there was another time that he was dead, but then some wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff fixed it.


Dana - Apr 23, 2008 8:50:21 am PDT #1979 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Rhys died in last season's finale.

And it's pretty well implied that Ianto died in Cyberwoman, and Jack brought him back to life with the magical healing power of his lips.


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2008 8:52:21 am PDT #1980 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Jesus God, does everyone die on this show?


Frankenbuddha - Apr 23, 2008 8:54:02 am PDT #1981 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So far, not Gwen. And Tosh hasn't come back (yet).