Awake: Do you think the fact that the show has scenes in both versions of Michael's life that do not include Michael is evidence that both are real?
You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.
Dawn ,'Storyteller'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
sj - Mar 09, 2012 4:25:04 pm PST #19626 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 7:05:47 pm PST #19627 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the show is being sorely sloppy about their mechanism. Good lord. I'm losing track. So they're letting him live each day one after the other, but showing them intercut? How are we supposed to keep track of when information goes back and forth? To make sure he doesn't actually bring anything new over until the next day, even though we'll have seen him switch over during the day (presumably with no sleep).
FUCKING MAGNETS.
DCJensen - Mar 09, 2012 8:34:55 pm PST #19628 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
It's always magnets.
Jon B. - Mar 10, 2012 3:26:23 am PST #19629 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
How do they work?!
Frankenbuddha - Mar 10, 2012 6:50:52 am PST #19630 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Science!
Or Magic!
Take your pick.
le nubian - Mar 10, 2012 7:05:17 am PST #19631 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
it's kind of hard for me to think about how people thought about magnets before our modern understanding of them.
Polter-Cow - Mar 10, 2012 9:11:50 am PST #19632 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
You mean the scene with the captain and conspiracy guy?
Does this mean that the world with his son is the real one?
I think that scene was in Wife Reality, which I'm generally thinking of as the prime reality because it's the brighter one.
Do you think the fact that the show has scenes in both versions of Michael's life that do not include Michael is evidence that both are real?
Or neither? I don't know how to interpret the scenes without Michael if we're supposed to look at each as a potential subconscious manifestation.
§ ita § - Mar 10, 2012 9:30:16 am PST #19633 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I've realised that the existence of a conspiracy scene without Michael makes me less interested in the mechanics of the whole thing, and I think I'm supposed to be less interested in the mechanics of the thing, and more interested in the character study of a grieving man.
So I don't know if it's the show for me. It's a good character study of a grieving man, but I don't know if it's my show. I thought I was signing on for a paranormal reality-busting mystery.
le nubian - Mar 10, 2012 9:42:38 am PST #19634 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I guess. But it almost is like a good character study of his wife and son grieving. He himself is not allowing himself to grieve.
-t - Mar 10, 2012 9:54:05 am PST #19635 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I agree with you that it's not about the mechanics of what is happening to him, but I think what it is about is how he copes with what is happening to him, which may or may not be a form of grieving. It's still interesting to me and I am still hoping that what is happening turns out to be something other than delusion - paranormal doesn't seem quite right but, you know, still suited for this thread, I guess.
One reason I am okay with the mechanics of the situation being all vague and ambiguous is that our main POV guy has no reason to be trying to figure out what's actually happening. He wants both realities to be real, and the sensible thing for him to do is to proceed as if both realities are real - when he is in each one, anyway. Although the transfer of information between realities is appealing to me as a viewer and I can see why it's be appealing to him as well, I can't quite defend it as the most rational approach.