Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny.

Oz ,'Beneath You'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Typo Boy - Mar 04, 2012 11:55:28 am PST #19553 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Have not seen "Awake" but the discussion means I'll probably catch it on rebroadcast. Tuesday?


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2012 12:00:19 pm PST #19554 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, so...as I go...he opens his eyes without the bracelet and has a freakout. Does this mean he isn't strictly alternating? Because that way he'd always know where he was. Why doesn't he check and see what colour the walls are, because then he'll know, assuming he hasn't made *any* changes to her stuff in their room at all, just like they haven't changed their dead son's room.

Sheer panic at the idea of being lost and having lost everything overwhelming all? Or could it be hinting at the possibility of a scenario where his son and wife both died, and both of these realities are coping mechanisms, and neither is realer than the other?


Juliebird - Mar 04, 2012 12:08:02 pm PST #19555 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Series finale: he's rocking back and forth at a psychiatric institute in a padded room.

I'm gonna let y'all break your brains on this. I think I'll take the lazy route, take it as it comes and enjoy the tone.


-t - Mar 04, 2012 12:11:15 pm PST #19556 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

He only looked for the bracelet when she wasn't there, and he was expecting her to be there, so I think he is strictly alternating and the bracelet is more so he doesn't forget during the day which reality he's in.

I do think his panic was fueled, at least in part, by the fear that neither was really real. Thus his desperation to wake himself up from the nightmare where he's totally alone.

It's interesting that he doesn't remember the specifics of the accident. I don't know what to make of that. I'm not sure I like the suggestion of conspiracy in the one reality as a direction for the plot.


le nubian - Mar 04, 2012 12:17:52 pm PST #19557 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm not sure I like the suggestion of conspiracy in the one reality as a direction for the plot.

I agree with this.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2012 12:17:55 pm PST #19558 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He only looked for the bracelet when she wasn't there, and he was expecting her to be there

But her getting up is perfectly expectable, isn't it?

Also, what end does cutting your hand serve? I didn't question it at the time, but having finished the ep, I'm wondering--was it to...wake him up from dream #3, you're saying? As in, the nightmare?

For now, I'm going to assume that's the reality. It's better than the converse, where they're alive and he's dead/dying.

I'm not sure I like the suggestion of conspiracy in the one reality as a direction for the plot.

If he's not in on the conspiracy, okay. But I don't think all the clues should come forth in one line.


-t - Mar 04, 2012 12:40:00 pm PST #19559 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But her getting up is perfectly expectable, isn't it?

It's not a shocking turn of events that she should get up first, I suppose. But I can see how it would trigger panic.

Yeah, I think cutting his hand was meant to either wake him up or prove to himself that he was awake. Possibly it actually triggered his subconscious to change the dream, if he was at that point dreaming, but I think he was trying to use it like Sam does in SPN.


-t - Mar 04, 2012 12:45:30 pm PST #19560 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Have not seen "Awake" but the discussion means I'll probably catch it on rebroadcast. Tuesday?

Yup, Tuesday on Syfy at 11 Eastern, looks like.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2012 12:51:21 pm PST #19561 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

it's got to be that he doesn't perceive sleep

That's a weird thing to say in Boxed Set. Why do you think so?

Is anything really a weird thing to say in Boxed Set apart from, say, sports talk?


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2012 1:01:36 pm PST #19562 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is anything really a weird thing to say in Boxed Set apart from, say, sports talk?

Assuming that there's only one, non-paranormal or alt-science explanation is weird in Boxed Set, weirder than sports. This is the thread where Sliders would go, right?