I thought Awake was great, and rather beautiful in its picture of grief, although I hope it's not just a super depressing grievingfest. I liked that they shot both realities differently and that both could be "real." The dual-procedural was neat, but they can't just do the same thing every week (although they probably will for the first few episodes because America loves procedurals and so that it gives new viewers an in).

I hope to see more of what Laura Allen can bring to the role after her great work in Terriers. And what the fuck, that was Wilmer Valederrama?

I don't really understand what the sleeping issue is. Obviously, he sleeps. That's when he dreams. He just doesn't perceive it, like Liese said. The all-nighter issue is something to consider, though. What happens when his sleep cycle gets wonky?

Obviously, he sleeps. That's when he dreams.

What dreams? Why is it obvious he dreams?

I think it's interesting what people think it's obvious that I missed being stated.

Do we know what happens when he naps?

I mean, it's not like he goes to sleep for 12 hours--he lies down for sleep at night and seems to open his eyes and start living then...there are mechanics I want the nitty gritty of, even without an explanation, but I suspect most of America doesn't care, and part of their mainstream success hinges on them not dwelling on those details.

Yeah, I want to know what happens when he has to pull an all-nighter.

How can he possibly have time to have 2 full lives? I don't get that. We sleep less than we are awake.

What dreams? Why is it obvious he dreams?

Because...that's the whole premise of the show. Hell, he even has the line about either seeing the 611 in a dream or being in a dream at the moment.

We sleep less than we are awake.

And dreams have time dilation.

Because...that's the whole premise of the show

The premise of the show, in my reading, is two existences of unknown validity. You're saying it's impossible, by definition, that they're both real?

he even has the line about either seeing the 611 in a dream or being in a dream at the moment.

I don't consider him a reliable narrator. He's obviously not fully informed as to what's going on.

Right now, they could both be equally valid reality--divergent timelines; or they could both be creations of his mind brought on by some condition mental or physical; or one could be a figment of some sort and the other real--I don't see where it's definite that it's the last one.

If one of them is a dream, it's the most boring and disappointing explanation possible. I'd hate that explanation, and I'd feel like it was a retroactive waste of time. And I rarely say that about finding out a given scenario wasn't actually real.

Grimm: Sebastian Roche in episode 18.

ita,

I don't think you're wrong given the pilot, but I think the creators are striving for one reality being "true" and the other not.

Meta knowledge aside, have we been presented with anything that supports that?

For all we know, he's the only one that died in the crash, and this is his Jacob's Ladder/Life on Mars moment as he winks out of life. It's so far just as supportable by the text, and even moreso, if information flows both way between red world and green world.

Besides he and his counselors asserting this? I guess we can choose to ignore what was presented to his counselors, but then should we ignore everything else that was presented in the episode as well? Maybe he doesn't have a son after all?

At this point, the viewer is supposed to believe that there are only 2 people (perhaps 3) who do not exist at this point in time: the counselor in the son or wife's "dream" and the son or wife. The possible third is the son's coach if the son is not the one who is still living.

Everyone else is alive and running around.