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'Hell Bound'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Theresa - Apr 21, 2008 2:21:55 pm PDT #1912 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I was going to make my way here to ask the question and now I have the perfect excuse:

Did that seem "off" for Chiana to sleep with Dargo's son as the only way he wouldn't forgive her? I can see her picking a stranger, or even one of the crew, but Dargo had spent all that time, and a significant amount of that with her, searching the galaxy for his son. That seemed pointedly hurtful. As it was happening, I wasn't judging her so harshly because I thought it was a matter of getting carried away in the moment, but then she said it was engineered. Ouch.


Vortex - Apr 21, 2008 2:24:55 pm PDT #1913 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, he called Ianto that in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang." I, uh, may have watched that episode several times.

I, um, may have watched it several times as well. But, my attention was perhaps diverted by the visuals.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 21, 2008 4:15:09 pm PDT #1914 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Did that seem "off" for Chiana to sleep with Dargo's son as the only way he wouldn't forgive her?

I assumed that Chiana, being a free spirit to the Nth degree, was feeling trapped by the increasingly serious relationship with D'Argo, and desperately went for the one thing she knew would break her free again.


Theresa - Apr 21, 2008 4:27:45 pm PDT #1915 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Yeah, I can see that. I thought she acted a bit disappointed when she found out about D'Argo's farm plans and thought they didn't include her. Then it turned out he was going to surprise her with a proposal and she went to the other extreme. I guess her choosing a way out didn't surprise me, getting carried away with his son didn't surprise me, but it's the actual combination that I found harsh. This show just keeps me reeling. Pilot's arm, the way Moya's first pilot was killed, and now Chiana's choosing D'Argo's son...wow.

Oh, and I am still more in love with Aeryn Sun.


Morgana - Apr 21, 2008 4:30:58 pm PDT #1916 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

As much as Chiana was capable of fighting with and holding her own with D'Argo, once she knew he was going to propose to her I think she knew she wouldn't be able to hurt him to his face by turning him down. How that translated in her head to the better option being having sex with his son so he'd be angry enough to break it off with her, I don't know. God knows she had enough backbone to face down everyone else she wanted to tell off. I keep trying to remind myself that in terms of ages, Chiana is quite young. Her interpersonal skills occasionally suck.


Theresa - Apr 21, 2008 4:36:43 pm PDT #1917 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

in terms of ages, Chiana is quite young. Her interpersonal skills occasionally suck.

I was thinking this too. D'Argo's son and Chiana looked like they were around the same age. The pairing, removing D'Argo as a factor, made sense to me.


Dana - Apr 21, 2008 5:29:24 pm PDT #1918 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

ZOMG Michael Rosenbaum at DragonCon.

I hope they pull Marsters onto some Smallville panels and leave more Gareth David Lloyd for me me me. Though I will have to go see Rosenbaum at least once.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 21, 2008 5:47:39 pm PDT #1919 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

ita is me. Only, you know, cooler. I thought Owen went out well, but Tosh ... Tosh broke me. I really didn't expect them to take out two real characters at once.

Tosh really, seriously broke me, especially her surprise goodbye that the built in to the computer program to remove Torchwood personnel. I am sorry that Owen only got to say goodbye to Tosh, appropriate as that was on a number of levels.

Also, Jack handles being buried alive (with no COFFIN!) for almost 2 millenia really, REALLY well.


Consuela - Apr 21, 2008 7:44:45 pm PDT #1920 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Aeryn Sun is teh awesome.

Primeval is totally cheesy and has lousy gender politics. Most of the characters are deeeeeply stupid. I don't know why I keep watching it; I think it's because it's so silly, and the dinosaurs are fun.

What's next? A Mastodon! Velociraptors let loose in a mall! That's the fun bit. Also, they play tricks with time: there's even a canonical butterfly incident.

There's also something of a conspiracy arc, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. And again with the lousy gender politics. Also, they seriously need a new costume designer. I've never seen such badly dressed heroes in my life.


sumi - Apr 22, 2008 4:23:38 am PDT #1921 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hmmm, I think Primeval is what BBCA is running once Robin Hood Season 2 is done.

I have concluded that I am more pissed off than sad at Toshiko's death. I'm going to be even more poed if they replace her with Mickey because Mickey does not equal Tosh.