Dana,

ME TOO. I was so appalled at that, like the character did me physical damage.

BTW, was it in Natter that someone linked to an article about deer eating meat? Of course that also crossed my mind during that scene.

Yeah, I was all "WTF? That deer would have smelled human and bolted!" That's deer-huntin' country there. Urban deer are like WTFever, humans, eh. But there in backcountry Georgia? An 8 point buck is old enough to know to fear the scent of human. I grew up with deer hunters, even went on a few as a kid, and they are easily spooked when they live in a hunting area.

I was expecting a walker to be stalking the deer, and to get Carl. NOT a shot. I WAS wondering about the cost/benefit ratio of shooting the deer. Meat vs. walker alert.

And Theresa, I gotta disagree with you on the Shane/Rick love. I mean, he was sighting him with his gun last season, and tried to rape his wife. Plus, Ed was a sack of shit who deserved his face beat in, but....dude. No.

Nope, I'm not loving Shane. Also, his smart plan to just take off? Safety in numbers, dude. Who's gonna watch your back when you're asleep or twist your ankle. Stop whipping out your dick to measure it. It's survival time.

Also, the guy that got his arm cut last night was just wearing a bandage? It was spurting like an arterial bleed.

Yeah, I was like, who sewed that up? It looked arterial, definitely, and the artery would have needed to be stitched or cauterized. They don't have a medic with them.

I was not loving Lori last season, but the dressing down she gave the group made my respect for her go up a notch.

And I love Andrea. I like Dale, but that BS with the gun. No one fussed about the black lady (I liked her; I wish she hadn't decided to suicide) choosing to stay, and Andrea wasn't going all ape-shit. if I had a gun in the Zombpocalypse and some dude decided to take it from me for my "own good" and I was sleeping in his trailer...well, he'd wake up to find my hands on his balls, squeezing one night, friend or not.

Erin, The scene where Rick died was really emotional for me. I really believed Shane was devastated in that hospital. He even pulled the gurney in front of the room as camoflage to protect Rick's "dead" body from the walkers. My basis of their love has been from a place that I think Shane genuinely was trying to help his partner's son and wife alive. If I had been Shane, I think I would have spilled the beans rather than continuing to protect Rick. The rest of it, yeah, shane's been a dick. That's another thing that I've liked is that even "heroes" like Rick, lorie, Dale, and Carol have all made really bad decisions. These are all anti-heroes. Love it.

Eta: I'm agreeing with your other points ( especially Ed, did Carol say she knew he was molesting Sophia?) but trying to type this on phone. OMG, I should have a real keyboard by Thursday.

Shane/Rick

Damn, I'm going to have to look for fan fic now.

Carol just said that he's looked at his daughter in an inappropriate way. I think the implication was that the intent to molest was there, Carol was aware of it and tried to protect Sophia from him.

I think Shane and Rick were true friends, and hell, I think that Lori and Shane hooking up was perfectly natural and understandable under the situation. I think Shane has true feelings of loyalty and friendship for Rick.

BUT...since Shane has fallen in love, or what he thinks is love, with Lori, and since Rick has taken over the leadership role, both of the group and in Lori's bed, AND he feels guilty for leaving Rick -- although it was understandable, really -- he's not handling it well. At all. I mean, no one's perfect, but Shane sighting on Rick? That ain't friendship or love. You know there's some bad juju brewing in his head.

I don't think Shane is a bad guy; you know, EBIL. But I think he thinks with his dick and his testosterone at the expense of his head.

And ITA with the antihero thing. Although I don't think they can all be quite classified as antiheroes. The show is all about normal people thrust into extraordinary circumstances, and how societal roles and rule break down, or do not, when sheer survival instinct has taken the helm.

And THAT is what makes it so interesting to me. I think that's the core of any zombie movie. What will you do to retain your life -- and your humanity? What is the cost? How far will you go? Where will your put your loyalties versus your survival? When does a moral system or ethical code break down when it comes to live or die?

Exactly so, Erin. That's what raises this above the "run around shooting zombies in interesting ways" genre.

(Which does have its points, cf. Dead Alive and Zombieland)

Me, while I'd get a revolver, I'd also get a number of shotguns because that would help with the accuracy problem.

I'd get as many weapons as I could get my hands on. Darryl's crossbow is optimal, really; Silent, doesn't need the arm-atrength it takes to draw a long bow, silent, reusable ammo. It's a little slower than guns....but then again, doesn't attract a horde.

And yes, I did love Zombieland; it was mostly adventure and humor, but I think ZL DID also have some of the same elements I mentioned above; it's just that the focus wasn't on it.)

Oooh, Zombieland/TWD fanfic! NO -- I do NOT have the time.

Remake of Misfits for the US.

I don't like it. I just don't see how they can make it work.

I'm not even sure about the next season of Misfits, because of the thing that's happened.

Which is totally canon in a webisode, but I guess is off limits here?

I agree. I'm kind of irritated about it.