Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Invisible Green - Apr 20, 2008 4:36:50 am PDT #1853 of 30001

Next season: Can't help but wonder if Martha Jones will return to Torchwood

Well, Issue four of Torchwood magazine confirmed that the 45-minute Torchwood radioplay, to be broadcast in June or July, will be set after series two (so no Owen or Tosh), and will star Freema Agyeman.

(Unfortunately, my understanding is that radiation doesn't work that way -- it would be more like being microwaved, wouldn't it?)

My brother's a nuclear engineer, and he found he whole thing laughable. I didn't pay attention when he was explaining why, because I don't really care.


Fiona - Apr 20, 2008 6:05:56 am PDT #1854 of 30001

I would be totally down with Martha joining the cast, if they went that way.

I guessed there might be an opening for a new Torchwood medic back when the finale aired.... And yes, somebody at BBC Wales seems very concerned about keeping Freema busy.

I'm sorry to hear that she won't be back for this season of Who.

Actually, she's in next week's episode (she was in the trailers), and then at least two more.

DW 4.3: another very enjoyable episode, with great characters and guest stars.


Tom Scola - Apr 20, 2008 6:08:32 am PDT #1855 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

DW: The previews for next week's episode excited me a whole lot more than this week's episode did.


DCJensen - Apr 20, 2008 7:50:12 am PDT #1856 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

My brother's a nuclear engineer, and he found he whole thing laughable. I didn't pay attention when he was explaining why, because I don't really care.

I did think it kind of strange that anything would vent into a control room, at any time, emergency or not.


DebetEsse - Apr 20, 2008 9:01:02 am PDT #1857 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Who 4.3: I thought that was very classic Who, especially wrt Donna's comment of not knowing who/what was right. Do you think the comment about the Doctors song being nearly over was about the end of the series? In the near future?


Fiona - Apr 20, 2008 9:07:16 am PDT #1858 of 30001

DebetEsse, regarding your comment about the song being over; there have been a few hints, including what the augers/soothsayers said in Pompeii (something about "her" to the Doctor, and about something being on her back to Donna - can anybody remember the exact quote?). According to Wikipedia, the music playing when the Ood mentioned the Doctor's song was the Rose-Farewell music. I think we're already building up to the finale, à la Bad Wolf/Mr. Saxon.

Also, does anybody else think that there might actually be something in the bees disappearing? Or is that just a big, buzzy red herring ?


DebetEsse - Apr 20, 2008 9:28:15 am PDT #1859 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, I assumed that the "she" in that one was Rose, and recognized it as a similar pronouncement to what the Face of Boe said at the start of last year.

It would be wicked cool if they did tie in the bees. But I don't know how they'd do it well (hmm...maybe there's a bee collective brain buried somewhere.)


Invisible Green - Apr 20, 2008 10:14:23 am PDT #1860 of 30001

Also, does anybody else think that there might actually be something in the bees disappearing?

I thought that was just a joke.


WindSparrow - Apr 20, 2008 11:35:25 am PDT #1861 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I thought that was just a joke.

More like a reference to current events, if that is what you mean. Link to article on topic in whitefont: [link] There was an episode of Nova on it, which suggested that they are disappearing not due to one single cause but multiple causes - environmental toxins plus pathogens such as fungi and mites plus malnutrition from lack of variety in the diet due to being turned out to pollinate single-crop farms. There may have been other causes into the bargain that I do not remember.

Unless you meant the references to it were meant to be pop-culture current events jokes rather than a set-up for the season finale's Big Bad . In which case I totally just rambled on beating a dead beehive horse.


Invisible Green - Apr 20, 2008 1:11:46 pm PDT #1862 of 30001

I meant the latter, actually.