You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Theodosia - Oct 01, 2011 8:43:12 am PDT #18343 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Fringe: somebody on the AV Club was saying that the Olivias should team up and fight crime together.

The guest star, Jon Pyper-Ferguson did a fantastic job of it.


le nubian - Oct 01, 2011 9:01:01 am PDT #18344 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I still really like Haven. I hope it gets renewed.


beekaytee - Oct 01, 2011 9:11:44 am PDT #18345 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I began to like Haven more and more as this season progressed. I wasn't so sure for a while. Now, it's appointment tv for me.

I hope the cooler in the Herald office means that Nicholas Campbell can come back, but not in a wrong way.

It was a bit disturbing to see him walking in the graveyard as if he has had a stroke. His face isn't effected, so who knows, but I hope he's okay.


Calli - Oct 01, 2011 9:53:15 am PDT #18346 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Because I'm in a guest house in France run by a British couple, accompanied by fellow geeks, I just saw the Doctor Who finale.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2011 9:56:28 am PDT #18347 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I did a quick Wiki check, and Nathan's adopted.

So how do Troubles work in families? Is it the same trouble that gets passed down? I mean, if your trouble is that you resurrect people by digging them up or burying them, surely just get your family out of the funeral business? Or could his daughter have been born with anything?


beekaytee - Oct 01, 2011 10:25:27 am PDT #18348 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I don't think it's a one for one with troubles, but I don't know for sure. For some reason, I think they are random.

eta: I take that back! Dwight said that his father knew of his affliction, but didn't tell him what it was. This is not definitive, of course, but it suggests a possible link from one trouble to another.

I also get the feeling that not every troubled person knows that they are triggered by fear. You'd think that, if they knew, they'd turn Haven into Bubblewrapville.

Does anyone have any speculation about what happens when Duke absorbs people's blood? He doesn't think he's troubled. Is he?


le nubian - Oct 01, 2011 10:46:00 am PDT #18349 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita, I totally agree.

I would immediately get out of the funeral business AND I would not dig. at all.

The digging part would be HARD (eyeroll) but I think I could manage not digging again ever.


sumi - Oct 01, 2011 11:03:25 am PDT #18350 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that the fact that Duke can absorb people's blood suggests that he is troubled.


le nubian - Oct 01, 2011 11:22:36 am PDT #18351 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes. his father said as much: his trouble is that he can relieve others of theirs down the family line.


Theresa - Oct 01, 2011 11:28:26 am PDT #18352 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

What LeN said.

The ghosts (Tamoh and Rev) kept telling Duke that he was the one that could stop all of it, implying that he inherited Tamoh's curse of stopping the trouble from being inherited in other people by killing a troubled one. Kind of like the old legend of curing werewolves by killing the wolf that bit them.

That's why Duke had to kill grave digger boy so his baby wouldn't be born with it.

But then why did Duke's eyes turn blue? Thank God, they didn't stay that way. He could have more than one curse?

I need another season because I'm enjoying it to much for it to end.