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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Toddson - Sep 27, 2011 4:17:39 am PDT #18297 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I was pleased that they thought to work around the big paradox (i.e., going back and changing everything). Obviously didn't occur to them that they'd be screwing up someone else's future.

And how convenient that the nice, gentle, plant-eating dinosaurs come close enough to get friendly with but the mean, vicious, predators only come out at night and only seem to have a taste for cute, underdressed teenagers.


sumi - Sep 27, 2011 4:18:28 am PDT #18298 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I hope that they know to avoid any red, green, black or other Crayola colored meteor rock.


Jessica - Sep 27, 2011 4:19:24 am PDT #18299 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And how convenient that the nice, gentle, plant-eating dinosaurs come close enough to get friendly with but the mean, vicious, predators only come out at night and only seem to have a taste for cute, underdressed teenagers.

To be fair, the slashers mainly went after the fully clothed boys.


Toddson - Sep 27, 2011 4:23:30 am PDT #18300 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

It's pretty and the dinosaurs are good. But it is kind of like Lost ... with no hope of rescue.


Typo Boy - Sep 27, 2011 5:39:22 am PDT #18301 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I was pleased that they thought to work around the big paradox (i.e., going back and changing everything). Obviously didn't occur to them that they'd be screwing up someone else's future.

Did they move backwards in the alternate timeline, or just sideways to a timeline that is a point now, we were then? Because if the latter, they are just changing an unknown future the way we all do through living day by day.


Jessica - Sep 27, 2011 5:46:46 am PDT #18302 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm curious to see if they'll continue handwaving the directionality of the fracture, or if we'll actually get an explanation of what the rules are. Because on the one hand we were clearly told It's A One Way Trip, You Can't Come Back, but on the other hand messages are clearly being exchanged between Terra Nova and the present/future ("I don't know who in the future I can trust" etc), so what gives?

(I'm willing to accept that you can send information back but not people, if that's how it works, but I don't like it just left hanging. MOAR INFODUMP PLEASE.)


Toddson - Sep 27, 2011 5:48:22 am PDT #18303 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

It occurs to me that the quarry is not of meteoric iron, but of handwavium.


Ginger - Sep 27, 2011 5:59:25 am PDT #18304 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It occurs to me that the quarry is not of meteoric iron, but of handwavium.

Then they should enter into negotiations with the Sixers immediately, because they're going to need that quarry.

They must have a way to communicate with the future, or they never would have started sending people, unless this is a "Marching Morons" scenario.


§ ita § - Sep 27, 2011 7:57:41 am PDT #18305 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who boo!


Theresa - Sep 27, 2011 11:55:45 am PDT #18306 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

They must have a way to communicate with the future, or they never would have started sending people, unless this is a "Marching Morons" scenario.

Yes! I kept thinking how do you know the first expedition didn't come out in the mouth of a volcano? Maybe you future guys have been sending people to their doom for decades. At least SG-1 would send that little malp thing through first.

eta: I was a little disappointed that the teenagers (or sixers, I don't remember) hinted that the pictures on the rocks were drawn by the leader's missing son. When I first saw them, I thought, "Squee, they are totally going off the deep end and these are left by aliens!" But no. Just a disgruntled son.