I'm just waiting to see if I pass out. Long story.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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§ ita § - Sep 24, 2011 7:02:05 am PDT #18233 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Melinda Clarke is hard-ass as Operations, but I'd love to see her go up against a Gina Torres character in some high-powered non-physical capacity. I think that would be glorious.


sj - Sep 24, 2011 8:50:26 am PDT #18234 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Who else would it be?

I was wondering if she could have been referring to Charlie, but I thought it was probably John.


aurelia - Sep 24, 2011 10:26:38 am PDT #18235 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I think she was talking about John. I also think that if not for meta reasons, they might have made Charlie alive in this timeline.

I've been thinking about that conversation between the Olivias. Our Olivia said she was kidnapped and Fauxlivia took her place. Kidnapped vs captured makes me think it was a Redverse incursion into the Blue, not the other way around. Who knows what all that could mean, but combine that with Lee never having met Olivia (or Bellivia) before and I've got to wonder if Bell is still alive and well in the Redverse.

I also wonder if Nina still has her hand.


Polter-Cow - Sep 24, 2011 10:28:41 am PDT #18236 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It's hard to understand how the Yellowverse even works without Peter having existed. If Peter never existed, than Walter would never have breached the dimensional walls to begin with. So did he have a different reason?


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 10:37:24 am PDT #18237 of 30001

Well, the Observer in the diner did say "They can never know the boy lived to be a man," which contradicts that Peter never existed, which is the distinct impression they gave last season, of course, so, in conclusion, I don't know.

I can't imagine Joe F was only hired for that brief appearance, so I'm guessing he'll be back. He is so engaging. I miss him! Weirdly, I just watched the SGA ep last night where he turned into that hybrid bug thing, so it was kind of funny to see him in Fringe with ooky transformed skin again. (My internet connection went out last night, which meant no Fringe until this morning, which meant SGA DVDs last night. Funny!)


aurelia - Sep 24, 2011 10:39:06 am PDT #18238 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Wyman has implied that Walter would've gone over for some other reason. They had the window into the other side. Scientific curiosity or military pressure to develop technology? Who knows?

Or it could be that Peter did exist as a boy, but died in both worlds. I wondered about that when Walter said that sometimes people die twice.


le nubian - Sep 24, 2011 11:09:34 am PDT #18239 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If Peter died as a boy, I wonder if his "mother" didn't die? Her guilt wouldn't have lasted nearly as long.


Theodosia - Sep 24, 2011 1:51:27 pm PDT #18240 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Timey-wimey wibbly-wobbly stuff.


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 4:08:59 pm PDT #18241 of 30001

Hey, so, David Hewlett is in tonight's Sci-Fi movie! I believe I will watch. I miss him on my screen, too.

It's called Morlocks.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 24, 2011 5:38:11 pm PDT #18242 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

No comment on tonight's Who? It was fun, fine old school Who in my opinion (apart from the setup stuff at the end). However the setup stuff made me think back on the season and is giving me a theoretical headache.

The Amy/Rory cameo was hysterical. I thought they were going to get pulled in by the end of the episode, which could have worked, but I'm glad they weren't.