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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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sumi - Apr 19, 2008 1:25:26 pm PDT #1822 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

This was mentioned over at TWOP and now I'm wondering if it's right: what if Cally is the final Cylon? There are things she mentioned that could apply to Galen but could equally apply to her: she told Doc Cottle that things had been off since they entered the Nebula. (Could be because of what Galen was going through - or it could be something she was going through herself.) The music when she was spying on Tigh, Tyrol and Tory was very Final Fiveish (could be because of them only or because of her too) and finally, when she was freaking out at Tory one of the things she said was "Trigger!" - -- what else could that be referring to?

If she is the final Cylon - could she still be alive? Do they die as quickly in space as humans?


le nubian - Apr 19, 2008 1:41:08 pm PDT #1823 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't think she's the fifth. I wouldn't be surprised if she was having trouble sleeping because her son was - being half cylon and all. Not to mention her husband was fucked up.

If she is the 5th, they are going to have to explain how the birth of the baby came to be...

It wouldn't surprise me, however, if Cally were like Starbuck. Assuming Starbuck isn't the 5th. Something is up with Starbuck - yet I don't believe she is a cylon.


Consuela - Apr 19, 2008 2:26:13 pm PDT #1824 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

From a narrative pov, if she was the final Cylon, she wouldn't be dead. They need the big reveal, and the interpersonal shock of the fifth's exposure.

We're running out of possibilities: at this point I wouldn't put it past Moore to make it Roslin or Adama.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2008 2:28:42 pm PDT #1825 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Forgive me for not paying much attention--what do we get of BSG once this season is over? A spinoff series? With who?


sumi - Apr 19, 2008 2:29:28 pm PDT #1826 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

But, she could be NOT dead and we wouldn't need to find out 'til much later that a hybrid had sensed that one of the final five were in trouble and jumped in to save her after the fleet had moved on.


sumi - Apr 19, 2008 2:31:01 pm PDT #1827 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Prequel - called "Caprica" and it's still all in the planning stages.


Consuela - Apr 19, 2008 2:31:45 pm PDT #1828 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

sumi, I would be really pissed off by that if it were to happen. Also, they showed us her looking pretty dead.

ita, I seem to recall there's a spinoff set on Caprica either between the two wars or during the first war. Dunno why that's a story that needs telling, but whatever.

At this point I'm mostly watching for the wtf factor.


Narrator - Apr 19, 2008 2:43:27 pm PDT #1829 of 30001
The evil is this way?

I can totally understand Tory killing Callie. (At various points I've found that character so grating, I've wanted to kill her.) She's acting to protect herself and the others. It's Tory waiting until Callie was awake and aware that she was about to be airlocked that was particularly disturbing.


sumi - Apr 19, 2008 2:48:59 pm PDT #1830 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Before the first war - about the development of the Cylons and the rise of the two families involved in their development.


sumi - Apr 19, 2008 3:58:48 pm PDT #1831 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, I forgot to mention that Scifi is going to air the second half of each SJA at 7 pm Central and the first half of the new story at 7:30 so that each week ends on a cliffhanger.

(This is not how I had originally understood the schedule.)

I am glad that they did away with Maria's friend with the v. difficult to understand accent and overly slangy dialogue.