A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
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She came back to him afterwards (and he was surprised he didn't have to compel it out of her), but he has definitely used his powers to overcome her reluctance. Her forgiving him doesn't make it consensual.
If she was fully consensual all the time, there would be no compelling happening at all. There's clearly compelling happening.
i'm mostly referring to this scene. [link]
I can't listen to audio from work, so I have no way of telling what went down. When they first got together, in the bathtub, there was compelling happening. He removed her ability to consent.
Well, I'm gonna stick with my gut reaction, which is that it doesn't matter how the victims react, really, once he compels a woman to sleep with him he's forced her into sex and that's rape. Whether that means anything in particular about his character or the show or whatever is open to debate but that he's done that seems pretty clear.
Forgiving a rapist also doesn't make it not rape. Loving a rapist doesn't make it not rape. Rape is what happens, right then, when a person's ability to consent is removed, and sexual acts are performed. Not what happened before or afterwards.
agreed and conceded, ita. i don't think the writers thought Damon would be as popular as he became. why, i don't know. Damon from the books is still a sarcastic ass much of the time, but he never compels anyone to have sex with him. give him free things and let him drink from them, absolutely. but there's no rape.
follow up question for this discussion. are rapists in fiction irredeemable?
Cool overview of ALL the various credit sequences for Doctor Who:
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Cool overview of ALL the various credit sequences for Doctor Who: [link]
Well, that was... thorough! (and surprisingly entertaining!)
I swear I didn't recognize that "Pope" (the criminal chef) on
Falling Skies
used to be "Major Davis" on SG1! No wonder he's stealing every scene he's in (not that it's hard to do with most of the cast excepting Noah Wyle).