Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Anne W. - Jun 05, 2011 10:52:21 am PDT #17345 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

My own take is that their timelines generally run opposite each other's, but there's some amount of randomness and looping.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 12:39:13 pm PDT #17346 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Bleeding Cool article includes at least one chart.


DebetEsse - Jun 05, 2011 4:38:01 pm PDT #17347 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Possibility: River has to kill the Doctor. It's in her programming. So, Real!Doctor comes up with a plan to use Flesh!Doctor to fulfill that imperative, so that she can be done, and move on with her life. And that is what we saw at the top of the season.

Now, I want to go back and watch all relevant episodes since the beginning/end ( depending on your perspective). I still don't know how the damn Silence fit into the whole thing.


Anne W. - Jun 05, 2011 4:47:23 pm PDT #17348 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I like that theory a lot, Debet


Barb - Jun 05, 2011 4:48:05 pm PDT #17349 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

Nate posited that the Silence & the Flesh are differently adapted versions of the same fundamental being. The example he gave was of a lizard species where one group were trapped on land and another on water and each adapted to their new environment. Fundamentally the same creature, but different due to evolution.

Whether that turns out to be true or not, it's still a pretty clever take.


DebetEsse - Jun 05, 2011 4:49:04 pm PDT #17350 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Oh! And, what the frack was written on the crib?


DebetEsse - Jun 05, 2011 5:09:41 pm PDT #17351 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Oh! Never mind, I figured it out! That's how she knew his name!


WindSparrow - Jun 05, 2011 5:10:32 pm PDT #17352 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

DebetEsse, I was thinking star charts and instructions for building a Fortress of Solitude... Oh, wait, wrong series, nevermind.

ETA: DebetEsse, of course, that's brilliant! And dang it, I wish I had thought that first.


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2011 6:59:24 am PDT #17353 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Alphas trailers.


Kate P. - Jun 06, 2011 4:06:35 pm PDT #17354 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

DW ep 7: Huh! This is one I'll definitely have to watch again. I love that Rory is the good man, except if that means that River kills him. And I really liked the reveal of "Melody Pond" becoming "River Song". And I would totally watch a spinoff about the Victorian-era Silurian detective and her awesome girlfriend. But I was sad that Fat Gay Anglican Husband got killed, and also that we never saw Thin Gay Anglican Husband again. (Was it Anglican? Or maybe Evangelical? Something. I can't remember.) Anyway: now what???