I love the poetry of the Doctor and River travelling through each other's lives backward, but... why does it only work like that, when they're both time travellers? I don't get it.
Bad luck?
Loved their banter in this ep.
"Hippie."
"Archaeologist."
You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both.
Spike ,'Sleeper'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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tommyrot - Apr 23, 2011 5:57:34 pm PDT #16707 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Barb - Apr 23, 2011 5:58:29 pm PDT #16708 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
"I'm quite the screamer." [beat] "Now there's a spoiler for you."
tommyrot - Apr 23, 2011 6:04:33 pm PDT #16709 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
What did Rory say? "I can kind of see you two together"?
victor infante - Apr 23, 2011 6:06:58 pm PDT #16710 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
why does it only work like that, when they're both time travelers? I don't get it.
I think it just works like that for them because that's the way it happens. Maybe it has something to do with the Doctor not crossing his own time line. Or maybe their relationship is a fixed point. Not sure, save to say that, for whatever reason, that's the way it happens.
WindSparrow - Apr 23, 2011 6:36:55 pm PDT #16711 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
So, Mark Shepherd's Canton telling Pres. Nixon why he should listen to The Doctor.... Hot. Pretty much the only time I have had that thought.
Juliebird - Apr 23, 2011 7:09:48 pm PDT #16712 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
That was fantastic!
I loved Mark's character, he got to not be a slimy slick sleazeball for once. Loved his awe over the Tardis and his eventual, casual, "Nice wheels".
Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2011 9:56:09 pm PDT #16713 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Okay, that was awesome, holy crap, what the living hell is going on. The Silence are as frickin' scary as purported. I love how they took the standard grey-man alien design and tweaked it into something sort of Ood-like and much freakier. And how the hell can you defeat an enemy that you don't even remember exists.
And on that note: watch The Lodger again. Not only is the machine they find in Florida the same one that was creating the perception filter on the imaginary second floor, but in the middle of the episode (21:51), Amy is startled by something she sees in the TARDIS. She says, "Hey!" And as soon as she looks away, she shakes her head in much the same way she did in this episode. At the time, it looked like she was looking at something on the screen.
She was seeing the Silence.
Apparently there are several moments just like this scattered throughout Season Five. Moffat was seeding the Silence in all along.
Shir - Apr 24, 2011 3:24:56 am PDT #16714 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Not sure what's spoiler and what's not, but better safe than sorry.
Moffat was seeding the Silence in all along.
That evil bitch.
The Silence
I'm not scared easily. I love horror movies. But this? I was terrified. I literally felt the chill in the back of my head. I turned on the lights in my room 15 minutes into the episode. Allow me to repeat myself: Moffat, that evil bitch. I'm glad he's back doing what he's good at.
On the plus side: P-C's review that paid attention to details. And Mark Shepherd's voice. Just keep talkin', baby. Yeah, right there.
how the hell can you defeat an enemy that you don't even remember exists.
I loved that Pond's reaction was to take a picture of it as evidence and try and remember it. That's agency, baby. And there's so much to analyze there. I'm thinking politics, I'm thinking sociology, but right now? I'm thinking I'll let the other part air. So many speculations. And let it be said again: Moffat, you evil bitch. You catch the Zeitgeist, and write it metaphorically so. fucking. well.
DebetEsse - Apr 24, 2011 3:29:53 am PDT #16715 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I don't think what River said about them having the relationship in reverse order is literally true, otherwise there would be no point to the journals: there would be no overlap in their experiences.
Although the later Doctor actually having so much more experiential overlap was so...heartbreaking in retrospect.
Shir - Apr 24, 2011 3:35:27 am PDT #16716 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
I'm with DebetEsse. Though, the journals could be a smoke screen and a memory lane trip on her side.
Also, we've seen that "worse day", didn't we? The library episodes?