I couldn't believe it the first twenty times you told us, but it's starting to sink in now.

Riley ,'Lessons'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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sumi - Apr 07, 2008 5:52:23 am PDT #1540 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Very cute.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 07, 2008 6:05:31 am PDT #1541 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think that it wasn't a real invitation, it was a dismissal,

That was exactly my take as well.


Vonnie K - Apr 07, 2008 6:13:33 am PDT #1542 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

But Jack's "I know best, and you need know nothing" management style really irked me.

Yeah. I mostly wanted to smack him in the head with a two by four for that. I mean, he KNOWS Gwen was not going to let go. Her tenaciousness and her compassion were the qualities he recruited her to TW for, fer crying out loud. Of course, the condescension was paralleled in Gwen's treatment of Andy, so this might have been intentional, but still.

I still think Rhys doesn't have the temperament to be married to someone in law enforcement.

I'm a bit "OMG Gwen + Rhys OTP!!" when it comes to these two (they are pretty much the only romantic relationship I'm invested in on the show) so I might be biased, but I think Rhys adds a terrific deal of balancing sanity to the show. He's good for Gwen. I buy his exasperation with her, but at the end, he always ends up supporting her emotionally. Without him, Gwen would be a lot more broken than she is now.


Vortex - Apr 07, 2008 6:20:05 am PDT #1543 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah. I mostly wanted to smack him in the head with a two by four for that. I mean, he KNOWS Gwen was not going to let go. Her tenaciousness and her compassion were the qualities he recruited her to TW for, fer crying out loud.

Absolutely. And she would have hit a dead end and it would have been a non issue if Ianto hadn't gotten involved.

Oh, and did anyone else see the enormous plot hole in that Gwen's access code got her into the facility? Shouldn't Jack and Ianto been the only ones who could get in?


Dana - Apr 07, 2008 6:21:44 am PDT #1544 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Shouldn't Jack and Ianto been the only ones who could get in?

When they were having sex? Oh, they so totally planned to get caught at some point.


Vortex - Apr 07, 2008 6:32:11 am PDT #1545 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

When they were having sex? Oh, they so totally planned to get caught at some point.

No, I mean when Gwen first found the facility on the island. She said that her authorization was Torchwood something something something. You'd think that it wouldn't work.


Trudy Booth - Apr 07, 2008 6:54:32 am PDT #1546 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Torchwood

The whole island thing was great foreshadowing for Jack getting back bug fuck crazy Gray.


Dana - Apr 07, 2008 6:54:39 am PDT #1547 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The Captain's Blog entry for this episode is interesting.

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Fred Pete - Apr 07, 2008 7:26:12 am PDT #1548 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Oh, they so totally planned to get caught at some point.

It's only "getting caught" if you don't want anyone to walk in on you.

And while I agree that Rhys keeps Gwen grounded in a real world, he needs to realize that she isn't working a 9-5 job. And that she can't know in advance when 5 will be 7, or 11, or next Wednesday. Though she should have called him so he could make other plans.


Vortex - Apr 07, 2008 7:32:32 am PDT #1549 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And while I agree that Rhys keeps Gwen grounded in a real world, he needs to realize that she isn't working a 9-5 job. And that she can't know in advance when 5 will be 7, or 11, or next Wednesday. Though she should have called him so he could make other plans.

but her job may prevent her from doing that. Better way to deal with it would be for her to call to confirm plans. If she doesn't call, then it's off and he can make other plans.