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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Dec 12, 2010 5:51:13 pm PST #15292 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I need an SG1 fan. I'm rewatching bits and pieces, and I just watched part 2 of Moebius. What happened? I mean, where did we decide the timeline had ended up, since there were fish in his pond?


WindSparrow - Dec 12, 2010 6:45:06 pm PST #15293 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I mean, where did we decide the timeline had ended up, since there were fish in his pond?

I think they decided something along the lines of "meh, close enough", and left well enough alone. Is that what you mean? I mean, everything else in the video they left for themselves was right on the money, just the fish were out of place, so this time they didn't have to go back in time to fix the mess and leave themselves a video. Causation paradox. Temporal physics gives me a headache. t /Janeway


Consuela - Dec 12, 2010 7:39:43 pm PST #15294 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, the show pretty much leaves it hanging.

What gets me about "Moebius" is that the original-timeline SG-1 dies in Egypt 5,000 years ago. Horribly. There's no happy ending there, they all die, and the SG-1 we see at the end of the episode are not the originals.

Only those writers could make that storyline into something happy-go-lucky: they regularly missed the tragedy of the stories they were telling.


aurelia - Dec 12, 2010 9:33:14 pm PST #15295 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I finished my re-watch of Fringe S1. Man, I love this show. When it first aired I loved Walter and Astrid from the start, but it took a while to warm to Olivia. On re-watch, I have no idea why. Anna Torv was spot on right from the start.

I noticed so many more things this time through, including a lot of Observer appearances. Remember the little, feral, empath boy? Anyone else think he's a wee baby Observer? I wonder if we'll see him again.


§ ita § - Dec 13, 2010 4:45:08 am PST #15296 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they regularly missed the tragedy of the stories they were telling.

Actually, they made me sad more often than I'd have expected of the show. Given how much they killed their leads (in whatever guise), I still got fairly worked up about it.

They named a short list of things to check up on, but who knows how many other things were out of whack? I wish I'd seen part 1, because I didn't remember enough about how the dissonance came into being.


§ ita § - Dec 13, 2010 10:15:30 am PST #15297 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

THEY KILLED HAWKMAN???

No, I'm not watching. I'm just reading recaps. But I did watch the ep where he was introduced, and now I'm kinda sadface. But, seeing as I never got over what they did (and undid, or whatever) to Lex, my expectations are low.


sumi - Dec 13, 2010 10:17:37 am PST #15298 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

They brought Lionel back from a different dimension.


§ ita § - Dec 13, 2010 10:25:02 am PST #15299 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I won't rest or forgive them until they fix Lex. And seeing as MR keeps saying he won't come back, well, I guess they're just going to have to keep crying in their Cheerios at my lack of love for them.


zuisa - Dec 13, 2010 2:52:02 pm PST #15300 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

I've watched the first four episodes of Torchwood now, and I think I like it? It's so different from Doctor Who, and I won't have a real opinion until I finish the season, I think, but so far so good.

I've also seen through episode 1x16 of Farscape and I'm really enjoying it! 1x14 ("Jeremiah Crichton" was sort of terrible but the fantastic commentary with everyone panning it more than made up for it.

So thanks again for the recommendations, all! I probably would have gotten around to Doctor Who/Torchwood eventually, but I don't think it ever would have occurred to me to watch Farscape.


WindSparrow - Dec 13, 2010 4:50:49 pm PST #15301 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

zuisa, it's been pretty cool seeing your reactions to the stuff you have been watching.