For some reason I assumed they hadn't been groiny until after Cyberwoman. Is that not supported by the text? Is it explicitly contradicted? (TW2x12:Fragments spoiler) at the very least we know he joined more recently than Owen or Tosh, so still a shortish time of familiarity...
And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD.
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§ ita § - Apr 05, 2008 7:10:23 pm PDT #1516 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Dana - Apr 05, 2008 7:11:28 pm PDT #1517 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
It's definitely not explicitly contradicted. (Not that I've spent time thinking about this.)
I am pretty much 50-50 on it. I can easily believe either situation.
Vortex - Apr 05, 2008 7:11:35 pm PDT #1518 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
We don't know for sure. We do know that something happened before the stopwatch conversation, and they were comfortable enough to get right to it instead of hemming and hawing.
sumi - Apr 05, 2008 7:27:49 pm PDT #1519 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Man, that was a heartbreaking episode of Torchwood and this is in spite of the very sucky BBCA feed that kept cutting out - for example - during Jonah's speech with his mum. (I am rerecording the 2 am airing. I hope that the feed improves.)
Just wrenching.
Fiona - Apr 06, 2008 12:42:44 am PDT #1520 of 30001
Doctor Who 4.1: I enjoyed that a lot. Loved the friendly little Adipose babies. The scene where the Doctor and Donna finally catch up with one another was a classic. And ROSE!!! I knew she was going to show up at some point, but I'm glad they got her in so early.
I'm now more optimistic that Donna isn't going to get on my nerves as much as I'd feared.
When does S4 start in the States?
Theodosia - Apr 06, 2008 4:05:09 am PDT #1521 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Not soon enough, if you ask me. Tho' I gather it's getting advertised as showing soon-ish on SciFi, so I have hopes.
WindSparrow - Apr 06, 2008 4:12:15 am PDT #1522 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
I'm now more optimistic that Donna isn't going to get on my nerves as much as I'd feared.
Yeah, she has her moments, but they don't seem any worse than some of Rose's more obnoxious moments .
Fiona - Apr 06, 2008 5:11:47 am PDT #1523 of 30001
Torchwood 2.13: well, that was sad. Good use of James Marsters though. Am I alone in thinking Owen might turn up again? I mean, he's already dead, who knows what the radiation actually did to him. He could be a nebulous conciousness bobbing about in Cardiff.
Mind you, it does mean that Torchwood now has a medical vacancy again. I wonder if Martha will be free after the coming series of Doctor Who.. .?
amych - Apr 06, 2008 5:39:01 am PDT #1524 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
When does S4 start in the States?
April 18, IIRC
Dana - Apr 06, 2008 7:09:11 am PDT #1525 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Fiona, in the Torchwood Declassified, Burn Gorman made a joke about how you don't actually see what happens to Owen, so maybe he escaped into the sewers and became King of the Weevils.