Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2010 4:13:05 pm PST #15154 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think Fauxlivia letting Peter live was a sign of softness, although I think she had softened towards him. I think he's key to Walternate's plans, and has to stay alive.


sj - Dec 03, 2010 5:58:56 pm PST #15155 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I don't think Fauxlivia letting Peter live was a sign of softness, although I think she had softened towards him. I think he's key to Walternate's plans, and has to stay alive.

This. Although I think the pictures showed that she had some genuine affection for him, I don't think Fauxlivia was authorized to kill Peter under any circumstances.


Consuela - Dec 03, 2010 6:47:06 pm PST #15156 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't think Fauxlivia was authorized to kill Peter under any circumstances.

Seconded. I think she would have killed him to escape, if she needed to, except that Walternate needs him alive for some future action.

As for Alt-Olivia, Nutty said on DW:

I don't think we're meant to read her as a villain, and I don't know how it's possible not to read her as a villain.

And that is where I am. She participated in at least two cold-blooded killings, neither of which I would have defined as necessary, and while Anna Torv is doing a good job with what she's got, I don't think the writing is supporting Alt-Olivia as a good person, or even a conflicted person. In fact, she's the most villainous of all the alt-Fringe team, who just happens to have a soft spot for Peter.

So if the writers want me to care about her survival, they're not doing a very good job of it. I do suspect they'll have her turn, but I'm not liking the setup. It takes a lot to get me past murder.


aurelia - Dec 03, 2010 10:39:06 pm PST #15157 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Vagenda! I love Walter. And Astrid's reaction was priceless.

I gotta say, that really long Greek phrase is nowhere near as catchy as "Francie doesn't like coffee ice cream."

Bwah!


smonster - Dec 04, 2010 7:22:57 am PST #15158 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Well, Peter's needed for the machine, right? That's what the schematics show.


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2010 8:43:09 am PST #15159 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's so Raven! No, seriously, the CW is talking about giving Raven from the Teen Titans a series. Someone tell Steph.


DCJensen - Dec 04, 2010 11:00:53 am PST #15160 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Smallville: Really? It's a wonderful life, Clark?

Dude, just stop whinging, start flying, and get the tights on.

Much prefer the striving for canon reconciliation episodes.


Theodosia - Dec 04, 2010 12:59:58 pm PST #15161 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You know if they'd change Sanctuary to The Tesla Show, I wouldn't complain at all.

At any rate, they brought back Peter Wingfield for at least another episode, so yay!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 04, 2010 1:58:45 pm PST #15162 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hell, it'd be all right by me if they just changed the premise to all-flashback-all-the-time and ditched the modern characters in favor of following The Five's 19th century exploits. They even acknowledged that Tesla is Serbian and had Jonathan Young speak with an accent in the flashback, putting to rest a peeve of mine.


Zenkitty - Dec 04, 2010 4:41:26 pm PST #15163 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Just watched the last Chuck. They've just given up completely on making any sense, now. He has the Intersect! He doesn't have the Intersect! Oh, he has it again! Why? How? What the hell? No one knows. Incomprehensible plot twists.

I wish Linda Hamilton had more than two facial expressions. She doesn't seem to be playing either good OR evil. If the show reveals that Volkoff replaced her with a robot 12 years ago, I would believe that.

Also, I'm annoyed with the Buy More and the wacky comedic sidekicks who ceased to be funny two seasons ago. However, I'm still watching the show, because Zachary Levi charms me.