Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


hippocampus - Dec 03, 2010 5:09:54 am PST #15128 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

Maybe they have an open relationship. Or Pacey was their agreed-upon exception?

"Ok Fringe version of Awesome from Chuck, you go cure plague in wherever and I'll jet to the alternate universe and convince myself it's important to my mission that I do Pacey."

ETA - yes, OMG Fringe.


tiggy - Dec 03, 2010 5:15:38 am PST #15129 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

in the books, Bonnie is a fair skinned redhead. so...no, sumi. there's also no time spent on Bonnie's heritage. the books and the show are so incredibly different, which is a good thing. the books are pretty terrible. i was kind of amazed they used the first book to convince someone it needed to be a tv show. i'm guessing they said something to the effect of, "don't worry. we're going to change a hell of a lot and actually make this interesting."

I'm also sure this was probably unintentional, but I laughed for a while at how this week it took both Stefan and Damon to roll away the stone blocking the tomb, but in the last episode Caroline did it all by herself.

that cracked me up too. basically they're confirming that Caroline's a BAMF.

Tiggy, it's one of my only must-sees every week at this point too.

it's just so entertaining! i used to only like Damon. now Caroline is being awesome and Tyler is getting depth and Jeremy's stopped the constant whining. i also have started enjoying Stefan and Elena...when they're not together. (still miss Mason. still want to know what the tattoo is on his back! last night was a perfect opportunity to show it to me!)


Zenkitty - Dec 03, 2010 5:15:39 am PST #15130 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

convince myself it's important to my mission that I do Pacey

I would have no trouble convincing myself of that.

for morale


Frankenbuddha - Dec 03, 2010 5:28:16 am PST #15131 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And they were under a lot of network pressure, and they'd lost a bunch of writers, and DK wouldn't let that one plot point go but nobody else knew what to deal with it

Which one was that (whitefont for zuisa if need be)?


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2010 5:29:19 am PST #15132 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they want to make it Very Apparent that they are all related

Then having Bonnie flirt with the new black kid is kinda creepy, no?

I am liking Jeremy a lot, but pretty much all of the rest of the show is pissing me off, and the race stuff is making me vocal.


zuisa - Dec 03, 2010 5:37:20 am PST #15133 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

Then having Bonnie flirt with the new black kid is kinda creepy, no?

Well, I think they are distantly related. Not enough to make it creepy that Bonnie was flirting with Luka, but enough that they have common ancestors from Salem, which every witch on the show has mentioned, basically. Either having Bennetts in their family way back or being from Salem.

I'm still not really defending the show, just trying to figure out their logic. Although now I sort of feel bad that the race stuff never really bothered me. Bonnie is an intelligent, confident character on a network where there really aren't too many people who are not white at all, and so... I don't know, I guess I was just focused on that. But I am also naive and I know that.


Polter-Cow - Dec 03, 2010 6:01:26 am PST #15134 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

No, "Mental As Anything"

Oh God, yeah, that episode was awful.

Alt!Broyles! EEeeee! Nooo!

Noooo!

I gotta say, that really long Greek phrase is nowhere near as catchy as "Francie doesn't like coffee ice cream."


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2010 6:21:22 am PST #15135 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think they are distantly related.

Coding all black people as distantly related is pretty damned clumsy racefail in and of itself. It's othering too.


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2010 6:38:15 am PST #15136 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Completely unrelatedly, VAGENDA! God, Walter, I love you, your actor, and your writers.


Polter-Cow - Dec 03, 2010 6:39:41 am PST #15137 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Vagenda was awesome. Also awesome: the credits.