I know, world in peril and we have to work together. This is my last office romance, I'll tell you that.

Buffy ,'End of Days'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Toddson - Dec 02, 2010 10:14:28 am PST #15080 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Cross-posted from Bitches: geek father of the year candidate.

Sorry if someone else has posted this - I've skipped about 450 posts.


Consuela - Dec 02, 2010 11:06:13 am PST #15081 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Primeval came back! I wonder if they'll get Abby and Connor out of that tree.

I have finally finished watching Fringe, and yeah, y'all were right: it's awesome. Well, Olivia is awesome. And Walter is terrifying. And Peter is kind of ridiculous--I cannot take him seriously as a badass or as a super-genius or even as Olivia's Great Love.

But I don't mind because the show has a great HSQ.

Although I do have logic-based issues with a universe that has so many small (and large) differences and yet the entire cast is duplicated (and in roughly the same roles)--the butterfly effect being what it is, realistically most of them should not exist at all. At least, so I see it.

But hey, I watched SG-1 and Farscape, so I can live with AUs.

Speaking of Farscape, yay Zuisa! It only gets better from here!


Polter-Cow - Dec 02, 2010 11:47:56 am PST #15082 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Although I do have logic-based issues with a universe that has so many small (and large) differences and yet the entire cast is duplicated (and in roughly the same roles)--the butterfly effect being what it is, realistically most of them should not exist at all.

Not when the universe is powered by handwavium.

In any case, we have no Lincoln, as far as we know. So there's at least one example.


Connie Neil - Dec 02, 2010 11:49:30 am PST #15083 of 30001
brillig

Walter is one of the great characters, a loveable, absent minded-genius with the knowledge of the wrong that he did vs. a cold-blooded, ruthless manipulator who will sacrifice everything for what he believes is right. So similar and so different. They should be inventing awards for John Noble.


Consuela - Dec 02, 2010 11:51:29 am PST #15084 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And no Humphrey Bogart either.

The world-building would be more solid if the point of divergence had been associate with Peter's childhood, but then you wouldn't have had the cool visuals of the zeppelins, so I guess it works out. And most people are not nearly as anal about AUs as I am.


-t - Dec 02, 2010 11:56:56 am PST #15085 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't think the butterfly effect comes into it. Neither universe split off from the other, they're just existing parallel universes (that people can cross between) out of infinite parallel universes (that can't be visited, so far). That's my understanding, anyway.

Maybe the population being particularly similar while history is different is unlikely, but not so much more unlikely than any other possibilities as to beggar belief. IMO.


Consuela - Dec 02, 2010 12:04:46 pm PST #15086 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, the assumption has to be that there are infinite possible variations, otherwise it doesn't work. And presumably the ones that are the most similar are easiest to get to.


Zenkitty - Dec 02, 2010 12:24:35 pm PST #15087 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I believe the last episode of Fringe I watched was the first-season one were Walter measured a magnetic field by its effect on a gold necklace. My virtual tomato-throwing got me into an argument with my BFF's then-boyfriend, who insisted that there must be conditions under which gold could be magnetized and loftily called me "close-minded". My eyeballs rolled out of my head and under the stove, whereupon they too were magnetized and I picked them up with a fridge magnet.


beekaytee - Dec 02, 2010 12:30:54 pm PST #15088 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Primeval came back! I wonder if they'll get Abby and Connor

Ack. Sorry ita.

Whitefonted response in re: Primeval yes, Cabby is back in S4 primeval.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2010 12:37:50 pm PST #15089 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It is spoilery, unless you've seen it on an US TV promo, so please whitefont.