This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 08, 2010 6:04:24 am PST #14660 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm skeptical that zombies would suddenly hone in on them due to the zombie guts they were wearing being washed off by a sudden shower. Wouldn't the rain itself disperse any scent of still-living bodies so the zombies wouldn't be able to track it to them specifically? It should seem like the live prey scent was coming from wherever their runoff went.


Theodosia - Nov 08, 2010 8:10:47 am PST #14661 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'll totally go with it, if only because their scent may have changed due to fear and adrenaline or maybe it washed away enough of the zombie's own personal scent that they could pick it up. ::waves hands quickly and confusingly::

Look, turtles! Zombie turtles!

(AKA The Trundling Dead)


tommyrot - Nov 08, 2010 8:15:07 am PST #14662 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Gamera is really neat / he is filled with zombie meat

(sorry)


Allyson - Nov 08, 2010 11:22:38 am PST #14663 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hooray! Walking Dead just got a 13 ep second season order!

Zombie zombie zombie.


sumi - Nov 08, 2010 11:23:17 am PST #14664 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Excellent!!


Allyson - Nov 08, 2010 11:28:48 am PST #14665 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It irks me that they don't call them zombies. Geeks and walkers. It's as if they're in a world without Romero. Or Rob Zombie. So Faith never danced to Living Dead Girl in their alternabuffyverse. I find it upsetting. Why must they be in a world without the word "zombie"? It's weird, right?


le nubian - Nov 08, 2010 11:34:02 am PST #14666 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

It's as if they're in a world without Romero. Or Rob Zombie.

they are. the author of the graphic novels says that there is no zombie entertainment or myths prior to the event. so that's why they call them walkers, etc.


Theodosia - Nov 08, 2010 11:40:19 am PST #14667 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I could argue either way -- on the pro side of A World Without Zombie Movies, none of the characters can be faulted for not immediately running to the nearest Blockbuster and familiarizing themselves with ideas that do or don't work, not to mention books like The Zombie Survival Manual. Nor will there be smart-ass characters making in-jokes about Romero movies.

On the meta side, the producers have less of a chance for getting sued for copyright violation by overzealous legal departments.

Speaking of stories copying other stories... according to a commenter on Alan Sepinwall's review of the first episode, in fact the original graphic novel had been written/drawn prior to the release of 28 Days Later so the plot of "comatose survivor wakes up in hospital after zombie apocalypse" wasn't copycatting.


Polter-Cow - Nov 08, 2010 11:50:48 am PST #14668 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

according to a commenter on Alan Sepinwall's review of the first episode, in fact the original graphic novel had been written/drawn prior to the release of 28 Days Later so the plot of "comatose survivor wakes up in hospital after zombie apocalypse" wasn't copycatting.

In Kirkman's own words:

Welcome to my life seven years ago. It was complete coincidence. I saw 28 Days Later shortly before the first issue of Walking Dead was released. That first issue came out in October of 2003 and 28 Days Later was released in the States in June of 2003. So we were working on our second issue by the time I saw it. It was going to be a matter of somehow trying to restage the entire first issue, because it was a very similar coma opening. I made a decision—which I pretty much regret at this point—I said, “You know what? It’s so different [from that point on], I will probably never hear anything about this.” And I was wrong.

In any case, they're both inspired by Day of the Triffids, I hear.

the author of the graphic novels says that there is no zombie entertainment or myths prior to the event. so that's why they call them walkers, etc.

There's no other explanation for their not referring to the things as zombies, really. It takes some getting used to.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2010 11:53:55 am PST #14669 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We're too quick to call everything zombies. 28 Days Later? Not zombies. Reanimated corpses--zombies.