Pretty cool except for the part where I was really terrified and now my knees are all dizzy.

Willow ,'Never Leave Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

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WindSparrow - Oct 13, 2010 4:02:43 pm PDT #14452 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Allo, my name is [unpronounceable Gallifreyan gibberish], you killed my TARDIS. Prepare to die!


Maysa - Oct 13, 2010 7:15:06 pm PDT #14453 of 30001

The "I'm sorry" bit makes me think it'll be something less happy than marriage....

I always have this weird feeling that she's affiliated with the Master somehow (or she was in her past). There are so many interesting ways her story could go. It would be fun/heartbreaking to watch the Doctor fall in love with her, but then meet her in her past where she doesn't love him at all. Whatever she is, I hope she's in lots more episodes because I really love Alex Kingston (way more than Amy Pond who I still don't get).


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 13, 2010 7:48:45 pm PDT #14454 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The episode where the Master was bargaining for a new regeneration cycle was "The Five Doctors." It was a special case, as he had merged with/taken over Nyssa's father and was arguably a new, composite being as a result.

At least three occurences that have happened in New Who could explain the Doctor getting more than the normal 12 regenerations even if that is a hard biological limitation of Time Lords in general: his absorption of all that psychic energy that he used to de-age himself in "Last of the Time Lords," briefly absorbing the power of the Time Vortex from Rose in "The Parting of the Ways," and intervention by BadWolf!Rose in that same episode .


Typo Boy - Oct 13, 2010 8:11:59 pm PDT #14455 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Again though no real need to explain. Lots of stuff in the new series is not entirely consistent with original series. They don't have to bound by it.


Liese S. - Oct 14, 2010 6:07:42 am PDT #14456 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Harumph. I think they do.

</curmudgeon>


§ ita § - Oct 14, 2010 6:16:31 am PDT #14457 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Harumph. I think they do.

They already publicly said they're not following canon. I think they're good. We just have to get over it.


Calli - Oct 14, 2010 6:17:41 am PDT #14458 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Lots of stuff in the new series is not entirely consistent with original series. They don't have to bound by it.

Yeah, as far as limited regenerations go I expect Steven Moffat will wave his hand at the audience and say, "This is not the canon you're looking for."


tommyrot - Oct 14, 2010 6:20:59 am PDT #14459 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Lots of stuff in the new series is not entirely consistent with original series.

Like what else? (I haven't seen many "classic" Dr. Who episodes.)


victor infante - Oct 14, 2010 7:02:21 am PDT #14460 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Lots of stuff in the new series is not entirely consistent with original series. They don't have to bound by it.

Hmmm. Well, they are and they aren't. It doesn't need to be a straightjacket, but I can't see them outright defying the big things, either. But all that being said, I can see all sorts of ways around the situation, and frankly, canon's given them all sorts of escape hatches already.

From what I understand about the SJA things, it's an offhand comment, which means we only have the Doctor's word for anything. Which often is about as reliable as a used Buick.


DebetEsse - Oct 14, 2010 8:33:06 am PDT #14461 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

The Doctor? An unreliable narrator? I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!