I'll be fine. I'll be your bounty, Jubal Early. And I'll just fade away.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


quester - Sep 02, 2010 5:50:09 am PDT #14090 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I forgot I wanted to comment on the scenery. I especially loved the concepts of the different cities, like the one with the trolleys that carry everything downhill or the upside down Western Air temple. I wished I could have seen more of it.

My favorite thing was the hybrid animals.


-t - Sep 02, 2010 6:44:29 am PDT #14091 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's a great world. I'm glad we'll get to see more of it.

Every time someone mentions Mockingjay I think "isn't that an Avatar thing?"


Tom Scola - Sep 02, 2010 7:18:41 am PDT #14092 of 30001
hwæt

Warner is trying to recruit Kripke for a Sandman TV series.


Polter-Cow - Sep 02, 2010 8:44:20 am PDT #14093 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My favorite thing was the hybrid animals.

Katara: The King is throwing a party at the palace tonight for his pet bear.
Aang: Don't you mean platypus bear?
Katara: No, it just says, "bear."
Sokka: Certainly you mean his pet skunk bear?
Toph: Or his armadillo bear?
Aang: Gopher bear?
Katara: Just, "bear."
[short pause]
Toph: This place is weird.


DebetEsse - Sep 02, 2010 8:46:15 am PDT #14094 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I was just thinking about that exchange!


beekaytee - Sep 02, 2010 8:53:37 am PDT #14095 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

In response to a bit of news in Spoilage Lite that I won't comment on specifically, I really enjoyed Alice and the look of Tin Man. Though the trend toward reworking old stories in Syfy and elsewhere, makes me sad. No new stories. Really? (I'm ignoring the monster hybrid films as something altogether different. That particular slice of genre is a nofly zone for me.)

Which begs a question, I suppose. Is it just that, as consumers of popular media, we are more likely to 'buy' familiar commodities, thereby dooming creativity? Or is it true that the human experience is so complete that there really is nothing new to add to literature and/or entertainment?

I bring this up in Boxed Set because it seems ironic that genre entertainment geared toward envisioning new worlds is so locked into old stories.

t /mindless musing


§ ita § - Sep 02, 2010 9:01:34 am PDT #14096 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

thereby dooming creativity

Do you think Wicked had no creativity?


Scrappy - Sep 02, 2010 9:09:39 am PDT #14097 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Well, cannibalizing extant stories has been happening since there WERE stories. Shakespeare got most of his plots from previous works. I think the borrowing is fine, as long as the person retelling the story brings creativity to it themselves.

On TV and in film, the whole point of the producers is to make money, so betting on a proven performer usually pushes a project closer to yes than something entirely new. There is a lot of original stuff out there, but no one wants gamble millions of dollars on it.


quester - Sep 02, 2010 9:27:59 am PDT #14098 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Katara: The King is throwing a party at the palace tonight for his pet bear.
Aang: Don't you mean platypus bear?
Katara: No, it just says, "bear."
Sokka: Certainly you mean his pet skunk bear?
Toph: Or his armadillo bear?
Aang: Gopher bear?
Katara: Just, "bear."
[short pause]
Toph: This place is weird.

I loved that! Also the farm that had pig-sheep, pig-chickens, etc.


beekaytee - Sep 02, 2010 9:38:06 am PDT #14099 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Do you think Wicked had no creativity?

Of course, there are exceptions, but I fear that actually proves the point. Not that I am interested in getting into a subjective innovation of thought-off, but my sense is the list of truly 'creative new visions' list would be woefully short compared to the retread list.

Hey, I enjoyed the concept of the BSG reboot (a bit more than the execution, in the end) but have to agree with Scrappy's assessment about tptb resisting investment in non-sure things.

I suppose the argument is tired before it's even begun, and I'm whinging down a bottomless well, but it does make me sad that we seem to have, as a culture, bought ourselves into a creative corner. (at the risk of dangerously mixing metaphors.)