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Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2010 5:55:34 am PDT #13872 of 30001
What is even happening?

We went to Maine on Friday night, and I missed a good chunk of the middle trying to get everyone settled in. When I finally sat down and Scott told me what Allison had done, I figured he must have missed something (no TiVo @ the cottage). When it all shook out, I couldn't swallow it. I kept hoping I'd feel differently once I got to see the whole episode. Heh. Guess not.

The only Allison handwavium I've been able to employ is this: Allison's life is so changed because Kevin is so different (heck, he's even been recast) that none of this reality feels real to her, so she's not making the same sort of choices she'd make in "real" life. For Allison, this is almost like a wish-fulfillment universe. It only half works, though.

I can't handwave Henry's hotel comment, no matter how hard I try. Maybe there should have been a throwaway line about one of them being bogged down in a big project or working different shifts or something, because that was just dopey. Actually, it probably would have been better to just say she was away for the conference without trying to explain why Henry didn't go with. It's good to know CFerg and JM felt the same way while filming.

I love Jack and Jo's friendship and am really hoping it just remains a friendship. There's a paternal vibe there that works for me, just the way it is.

It was so great to have Zoe back on screen. I hope we see more of her. In so many ways, she's the reason Jack stayed in this freaky town, at least at first. Their relationship is so good. I'm neutral on Jo/Zane. I have to say though, in the one episode of this that I got to recap (3-06: Phased and Confused), I saw great sparks between Zane and Zoe. I know it was 7 flavors of wrong then, but if Zane can be socialized in this new reality, I wouldn't mind seeing it.


Vortex - Aug 01, 2010 7:09:27 am PDT #13873 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Actually, it probably would have been better to just say she was away for the conference without trying to explain why Henry didn't go with.

I thought that it was a nice foreshadowing. I think that this is a problem that needs to be addressed.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 01, 2010 1:18:45 pm PDT #13874 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, Matt will be happy about this Eureka casting choice. I wonder if it will stick.

Who's been cast? I've missed the last couple of Fridays thanks to the hospital situation...


§ ita § - Aug 01, 2010 2:29:51 pm PDT #13875 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kavan Smith. He was the new face of Deputy Andy.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 01, 2010 3:19:13 pm PDT #13876 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ah! I'll be happy to see him with a semi-regular gig. Pity the role is such an earnest one though, he really excels at snarkiness.


Mickie - Aug 01, 2010 6:34:25 pm PDT #13877 of 30001
Who, Me?

Speaking as the mom of 2 teenaged boys, I'm seeing the Allison/Kevin subplot as being highly symbolic of teen parenting in general.

In my experience kid's personalities are pretty stable between the ages of 7 and 12. Then suddenly they change. Dramatically. And while it doesn't actually happen in the blink of an eye, it sure does feel like it. And suddenly you feel like you've been handed a brand new kid, the rules have changed, your parenting skill set has been flung out the window and you're flat-footed and fumbling in a way that hasn't happened since they were toddlers.

So, yeah, I'm identifying with Allison quite a bit this season. And Eureka, being Eureka, she's not going to make typical mom-of-teen parenting blunders, she needs to make Eureka-scale parenting blunders.

I'm cutting her some slack.

edited because mom-of-teen is not the same as teen mom


WindSparrow - Aug 02, 2010 2:54:10 am PDT #13878 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Alright, Mickie, that's an insight I'm willing to consider.


sumi - Aug 02, 2010 6:14:19 am PDT #13879 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

TVshowsondvd has a hint that we will see a 1st half of season 1 Caprica dvd set.


smonster - Aug 02, 2010 6:27:35 am PDT #13880 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Good to see your pixels, CFerg.

The show is then passed off to the producers and to the network and they both have their way with it.

Interesting... I thought it was more of a "here's some notes" thing and not so much giving up control.

Agree that Jo/Jack is a great partnership, and that Jack's relationship with his daughter is wonderful.

Pretty much agree with what all of y'all said about Allison, and the hotel comment, and being cautiously optimistic about Zane.


beekaytee - Aug 02, 2010 6:51:26 am PDT #13881 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Good news...I watched all of Ultraviolet on Hulu yesterday and enjoyed it even more the second time around. (Vampire Bill! Only with fluffy hair!)

Other news...I actually enjoyed last night's The Gates. Did not expect that, I must say. Yes, yes, it's Dynasty with Fangs, but the characters and intrigues are becoming less Melrose Place as the season progresses.