I hope you don't think that I just come over for the spells and everything. I mean, I really like just talking and hanging out with you and stuff.

Willow ,'First Date'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


CFerg - Jul 30, 2010 8:57:08 pm PDT #13857 of 30001

I should also say, that all I get to do is a director's edit.

The show is then passed off to the producers and to the network and they both have their way with it.

So the show that airs doesn't really resemble the show I shot in some places. How a second more here and there radically changes the mood of a character or scene.

Or how someone not liking something completely changes some poor actor's performance.

...it's a disclaimer.... but it's also true....


Frankenbuddha - Jul 30, 2010 10:07:35 pm PDT #13858 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Deleted scenes on the DVDs perhaps? One can hope, at least.


Jessica - Jul 31, 2010 2:21:23 am PDT #13859 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I like this Jo/Zane better than the previous version - my objection was always to how they got together (being a pushy asshole is not an attractive seduction method!) so seeing her be the pursuer works better for me.

(Of course, her attraction to this Zane is based on her memories of the old one, so in the end it's still the same story, but I'm willing to be persuaded.)

Henry - "the problem of the hotel room"? Has he been faking a headache since they got back, or sleeping at his office? DUDE YOU HAVE TO TELL YOUR WIFE YOU DON'T KNOW HER.


Theodosia - Jul 31, 2010 4:28:12 am PDT #13860 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

CFerg, I think Carter is one of the great TV parents. I'm so glad it worked out that Zoe could feature in an episode, because the emotional relationship is so important to Carter that it just shoudln't have disappeared from the season entirely!

I'm afraid I'm in the camp that finds Allison's action out of character. I'll wave my hands and consider it in light of the emotional stress of the alternate timeline switching, but only because the show has earned a lot of my fondness. :-)

Loved the invisible cat... I have an all-too-visible cat who gets into a whole lot of trouble, and if there was a spray can of Match Mist around, you know she'd somehow trigger it.

Just what the world needs... stealth cats.


Jon B. - Jul 31, 2010 4:29:17 am PDT #13861 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

"the problem of the hotel room"?

Yeah, I did a doubletake when Henry said that. How long have they been back now?

One thing I thought was (unintentionally?) hilarious was that tiny boxing-ring/VIP area that the General was sitting in during the launch. You only saw it for a few seconds so I wonder if there was more to it that got left on the cutting room floor.


Theodosia - Jul 31, 2010 4:36:23 am PDT #13862 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I caught the VIP seating area, too!


CFerg - Jul 31, 2010 7:41:26 am PDT #13863 of 30001

YAY!! The viewing area for Mansfield was a larger bit that got cut but I LOVED it and wanted someone to see it. I was so pleased when I was allowed to do it with some comedy.

And, yeah, Joe and I had a lot of raised eyebrows about "the problem of the Hotel room...."..... what's he been doing? Isn't it the same as SHARING A HOUSE?

Totally agree. But we won a couple of other battles instead, so that logic point died well and with honor on the battlefield....


beekaytee - Jul 31, 2010 7:51:11 am PDT #13864 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

But we won a couple of other battles instead, so that logic point died well and with honor on the battlefield....

Who knew comedy was so contentious? Keep fighting the good fight! Somebody has to hold the line in a culture of fanboys/girls who notice everything.


Vortex - Jul 31, 2010 12:18:57 pm PDT #13865 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm afraid I'm in the camp that finds Allison's action out of character.

I do and I don't. It's been shown countless times that she is willing to do anything for her son, to make him happy. That made a little more sense when he was autistic, because she felt like she had to go above and beyond because she didn't know how to deal with him. I think that she is having trouble getting out of that mentality with a normal child.


beekaytee - Jul 31, 2010 12:25:20 pm PDT #13866 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm with Vortex on the yes and no understanding of Allison's behavior. It would, I think, have made more sense to me if she'd done what so many 'normal' parents would do which is to 'help' with science projects...with Kevin's knowledge. The out and out cheating just rings wrong.

Not to mention the fact that she has, up until now, been presented as a genius in her own right, and someone whose job it has been to save the world from other people doing bonehead things. I can't imagine, no matter how motherly she was being, that she would not have thought this action through to its inevitable and potentially tragic conclusion.