They should film that story and show it every Christmas.

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 28, 2010 12:10:23 pm PDT #13528 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Shir: Aww, how can you say it didn't move you?! The Girl and I both *melted* over Rory looking after Amy-in-a-box for two millenia. There was laughter and pathos and remembering and River and a wedding and missing stars and a very cool TARDIS description and a continuing mystery and a Doctor who can't dance. Wonderful!


Typo Boy - Jun 28, 2010 3:53:52 pm PDT #13529 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Ace was the most kick-ass companion ever. Arguments can be made for others, but think Ace wins.


Tom Scola - Jun 28, 2010 4:03:26 pm PDT #13530 of 30001
hwæt

Ace is great, but did she ever stand over her mortally wounded enemies and shout, "Enjoy your death, as I have enjoyed killing you!" the way Leela did?


Laga - Jun 28, 2010 4:36:59 pm PDT #13531 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Leela's awesome.

I can't really argue for why I think Sarah Jane is the best. It's the tone of her voice and the shape of her jaw and the flash in her eyes. I guess I'm just in love with her.


Connie Neil - Jun 28, 2010 6:01:49 pm PDT #13532 of 30001
brillig

Leela did have a joie de vivre missing in other companions. Or whatever the French for joy of mayhem is.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 28, 2010 6:11:00 pm PDT #13533 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sarah Jane's always been my favorite too, but Leela, Donna, and Romana 1 rate pretty on my awesome meter. And I am one of the few that really liked Tegan.


Laga - Jun 28, 2010 6:16:52 pm PDT #13534 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

According to babel fish the French for mayhem is mutilation.


Maysa - Jun 28, 2010 6:28:28 pm PDT #13535 of 30001

And I am one of the few that really liked Tegan.

I've only caught a few of the fifth Doctor's adventures on netflix, but I LOVE Tegan. I actually find that with classic Who, whether or not I enjoy a story depends not so much on which Doctor it is, but which companion it is (and how the writing treats that companion).


Typo Boy - Jun 28, 2010 8:21:04 pm PDT #13536 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah but nobody ever made shit explode the way ACE did! And she put up with less of the Doctor's shit than Leela. And Leela was a "woman warrior". Ace was a kick ass fighter and a woman. I don't know how to say it except that neither modified the other. She was not a woman warrior. She was not a warrior woman. And was a woman AND a warrior. And it is not that neither influenced the other. She was different kind of warrior than a man would have been. She was a different kind of woman that someone who did not know how to blow shit up would have been. But neither "woman" nor "warrior" were adjectives.

I admit Sarah Jane has an entirely different kind of awesome. But she was unusually skilled in violence.


Shir - Jun 28, 2010 8:38:47 pm PDT #13537 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Seska: OK, yes, Rory's bits were wonderful, indeed, and he absolutely grew on me as an actor. I can't believe he waited that long (and, eh, could be a failure to believe that 2000 years, seeing all that he seen, and not change at all). But the Doctor? As in, the main character? Didn't move me as much as the story did (I was afraid to lose the Doctor to forgetness. Not that specific Doctor, but the idea of a Doctor. And I think it's bad, not really caring about the main character.

But I love, love, love, love that from the memory of a girl everything was brought back to life. That our memories and the way we remember things have deep meanings. Hello, phenomenology! Though, I didn't like that from Amy's PoV, she could burst into tears of joy/grief at times without knowing why. It's such an abuse, without even going as far as "hysteric women" and all of that. Though (2), that could explain A LOT about Victorian women. I knew something gone very very wrong there!