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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 28, 2010 6:11:00 pm PDT #13533 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sarah Jane's always been my favorite too, but Leela, Donna, and Romana 1 rate pretty on my awesome meter. And I am one of the few that really liked Tegan.


Laga - Jun 28, 2010 6:16:52 pm PDT #13534 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

According to babel fish the French for mayhem is mutilation.


Maysa - Jun 28, 2010 6:28:28 pm PDT #13535 of 30001

And I am one of the few that really liked Tegan.

I've only caught a few of the fifth Doctor's adventures on netflix, but I LOVE Tegan. I actually find that with classic Who, whether or not I enjoy a story depends not so much on which Doctor it is, but which companion it is (and how the writing treats that companion).


Typo Boy - Jun 28, 2010 8:21:04 pm PDT #13536 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah but nobody ever made shit explode the way ACE did! And she put up with less of the Doctor's shit than Leela. And Leela was a "woman warrior". Ace was a kick ass fighter and a woman. I don't know how to say it except that neither modified the other. She was not a woman warrior. She was not a warrior woman. And was a woman AND a warrior. And it is not that neither influenced the other. She was different kind of warrior than a man would have been. She was a different kind of woman that someone who did not know how to blow shit up would have been. But neither "woman" nor "warrior" were adjectives.

I admit Sarah Jane has an entirely different kind of awesome. But she was unusually skilled in violence.


Shir - Jun 28, 2010 8:38:47 pm PDT #13537 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Seska: OK, yes, Rory's bits were wonderful, indeed, and he absolutely grew on me as an actor. I can't believe he waited that long (and, eh, could be a failure to believe that 2000 years, seeing all that he seen, and not change at all). But the Doctor? As in, the main character? Didn't move me as much as the story did (I was afraid to lose the Doctor to forgetness. Not that specific Doctor, but the idea of a Doctor. And I think it's bad, not really caring about the main character.

But I love, love, love, love that from the memory of a girl everything was brought back to life. That our memories and the way we remember things have deep meanings. Hello, phenomenology! Though, I didn't like that from Amy's PoV, she could burst into tears of joy/grief at times without knowing why. It's such an abuse, without even going as far as "hysteric women" and all of that. Though (2), that could explain A LOT about Victorian women. I knew something gone very very wrong there!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 28, 2010 10:04:26 pm PDT #13538 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Shir: "But I love, love, love, love that from the memory of a girl everything was brought back to life. That our memories and the way we remember things have deep meanings. Hello, phenomenology!" Ooh. I never thought of that. How exciting. You have to write a paper now.

"Though, I didn't like that from Amy's PoV, she could burst into tears of joy/grief at times without knowing why." There was precedent - she did the same over Rory without remembering what she was crying about, in a previous episode. Not an abuse. A perspective that says our emotions respond to things that our rational minds can't perceive, which I can get on board with. (But I also love your Freudian take on it. Heh.)


Kathy A - Jun 29, 2010 1:37:45 am PDT #13539 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

And I am one of the few that really liked Tegan.

Me, too! I loved that Tegan was one of the few of the Classic Who companions who constantly called the Doctor out on his bullshit when needed. Her exit was iconic for me because she was the first one I ever remember telling him that the violence and death that surrounds him was just too much for her, and she had to leave for her own sanity.


DCJensen - Jun 29, 2010 2:12:24 am PDT #13540 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

IIRC, didn't the Doctor drop Tegan off in the wrong city?


Tom Scola - Jun 29, 2010 2:13:04 am PDT #13541 of 30001
hwæt

The Doctor dropped Sarah Jane off in the wrong city.


Shir - Jun 29, 2010 2:55:07 am PDT #13542 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

And what a powerful message for children to hear, that the good things in life don't erase the bad and vice versa*, and that you can't always save people who are depressed.

I just wanted to echo it again, because it's so important, and not just powerful message for children. I need to hear it every once in a while, too.

Then again, I'm young.