That was a terrifically funny Chekhov's Gun!
Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.
Angel ,'Not Fade Away'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Juliebird - May 21, 2010 3:24:53 pm PDT #13038 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
DCJensen - May 21, 2010 4:42:00 pm PDT #13039 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Hey, she's not Evil Olivia. She's just doing her job, against the guy that had wrought havoc on her universe. Walternate is a bastard, but that's about it.
Sure, it may be that altOlivia is not evil. In fact it might be useful for her to realize this side is not evil and actually pitch in on the solution.
§ ita § - May 21, 2010 4:44:58 pm PDT #13040 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it may be that altOlivia is not evil
It may be? What evil thing or motivation have we seen from her so far?
DebetEsse - May 22, 2010 6:24:38 am PDT #13041 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Can we call her Altlivia? I wonder if they'll pick up immediately or at the end of the summer. If the summer, then they'd have to play that she passed for that time, and it would either have to be something that was building, or something exceedingly unusual that pings it, otherwise why not immediately. However, giving the summer does give time for Olivia to get her crack-opining mojo going.
And, oh, the awkwardness with Peter when she gets back, especially if it's been the summer.
§ ita § - May 22, 2010 6:26:43 am PDT #13042 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Fauxlivia works for me.
I hope they don't skip time, because the mechanics of her fitting in are important to me.
DCJensen - May 22, 2010 7:15:06 am PDT #13043 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
I'm not saying Faulivia IS evil, I'm just leaving the door open.
Actually, given all that has happened on the other side, I can see why many might have been convinced that winning at any cost was necessary.
§ ita § - May 22, 2010 7:31:44 am PDT #13044 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She only just found about the other side. She's an agent doing a job. Walter stole a child. Walternate is a revenge-obsessed bastard. I don't think anyone else on their side has taken any sort of moral stance…yet.
victor infante - May 22, 2010 9:15:04 am PDT #13045 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I don't think anyone else on their side has taken any sort of moral stance…yet.
and if they do, I'm certain the choices will be presented to them in terms of one world's survival or the other. I'm not entirely sure choosing one's own world in those circumstances is "evil." (But working to find a way to save both is unequivocally good.)
Theodosia - May 22, 2010 9:37:47 am PDT #13046 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Just remember that Peter's kidnapping was the Alternate World's Lindbergh Baby equivalent, and the presumption that whoever would kidnap an innocent child must be evil... so her immediate assumption is going to be more that she's on the side of Good.
Connie Neil - May 22, 2010 12:58:48 pm PDT #13047 of 30001
brillig
If she gets a chance to observer Peter and Walter together, or gets to know Walter at all, she should get very confused comparing the two Walters. I expect some juicy "But the Secretary is a very important man! He's protected us! What do you mean he's a conniving, intentionally-world-destroying bastard!"
Walter at least feels bad about it. Thought I loved Bell sitting there munching on licorice as he said, "Yes, Walter, it's all your fault." I'm going to miss him.