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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Emily - Feb 11, 2008 8:14:53 am PST #129 of 30001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

(Which is no doubt why he seemed so familiar.)

Totally! And yes, lisah, on the not terribly sexy. But very very nice!

And then I watched the Dr. Who episode with all the 1913 schoolboys. I had a Great-War-a-licious weekend.

Okay, I may just not have had all that much to say about the episode. Oh! Except! What, Torchwood 19mumble couldn't have kept him from going back to the front? Like, a "top secret but crucial service to our country" kind of discharge? That sucks!


Dana - Feb 11, 2008 8:15:16 am PST #130 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I would like to see the show do more with the time travel plots. Though I thought this one was good, and the story was touching, it was "Out of Time" (Torchwood team member falls in love with someone from the past) plus "Captain Jack Harkness" (Torchwood team member must do their duty and leave a loved one behind).


Emily - Feb 11, 2008 8:16:04 am PST #131 of 30001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Maybe a time travel plot where nobody falls in love at all? Nah, that just wouldn't be Torchwood.


sumi - Feb 11, 2008 8:16:33 am PST #132 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I hope that they do more with it too -- that truncated "extra" that talked about the time travel love stories makes me hope that they will.


JenP - Feb 11, 2008 8:38:57 am PST #133 of 30001

Maybe a time travel plot where nobody falls in love at all?

I thought that was a cardinal rule of time travel in general - you will meet your one great love. Or one of your great loves. In any case, you will have to leave him or her behind. Or it, if we're in sci-fi mode.

Anyway, it's why I hesitate to try it. Who needs that kind of heart break?


Polter-Cow - Feb 11, 2008 8:56:47 am PST #134 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Motherfuck! No new Chuck expected till fall either.


Tom Scola - Feb 11, 2008 8:57:49 am PST #135 of 30001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I like Chuck, but a little Chuck goes a long way.


Dana - Feb 11, 2008 8:59:38 am PST #136 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I'm with Scola. I also got really tired with the guy-ness of it all. There's only so many times I need to see the love interest in her skivvies, or the two idiots at the Buy More harassing female customers.


Vortex - Feb 11, 2008 9:09:58 am PST #137 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

What, Torchwood 19mumble couldn't have kept him from going back to the front? Like, a "top secret but crucial service to our country" kind of discharge? That sucks!

Well, past!Torchwood wouldn't have known what happened to him when he got sent to the front. There was no reason to keep him at the hospital. Once they found out, they could have amended the orders at that point not to send him back, but that would be messing with the time stream, and that's a no no. Plus, they don't know if there was something about Tommy that would make it happen again.


Fred Pete - Feb 11, 2008 9:33:15 am PST #138 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Plus, they don't know if there was something about Tommy that would make it happen again.

I want to think that Tommy's experiences with Torchwood (and he didn't have his memories erased!) may have created a wild card effect. His experiences there affect how he reacts once he's back in 1918. And maybe he did something different after he went back.

I think there's a fatal flaw in that line of reasoning, which is that Tommy didn't live linearly. That Tommy-after-he-went-back always had memories of Torchwood.

Which actually raises another question: How much effect did Tosh's answers to his questions have on what he did after he went back? She left him thinking he'd die in battle. Did he try to avoid that?