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I don't think Doctor Who breaks the laws of narrative all that much. It has internal cohesion, which is central to fantasy (although I wouldn't call it science fiction either). I wrote a dissertation on narratology and fantasy (some years ago, now), and I'm going to assert my right to disagree with Pratchett on that basis. So there.
UK Doctor Who ep:
Fiona: Re your question "Anyone else think that the man River kills is the Doctor? I thought that was quite heavily signposted" - I think that, as River kept saying, it's not going to be that simple. Neither is she his wife, I'm almost sure, on account of how much people around them keep claiming they must be married. I don't think they're going to reveal any answers in that area for a good while, though.
I wasn't particularly happy with the ending - I'd really been hoping for a Donna-style platonic relationship, and even though this is clearly just Amy being 'wrong', it's still irritating to have yet another companion fall for the Doctor. But she played it well.
As for the theory that all gingers are one person, I've heard that from someone else too. (It's fortunately not very likely though.) But is there much they can do with "it's all about Amy" from here on? Donna, at least, was only at the centre of everything because of something involving the Doctor. I'm wondering if they'll actually make this about Amy.
I agree with Seska re: internal cohesion. It's all a bunch of wibbley wobbley timey wimey stuff.
Being Human: BBCA premiere is July 24th - following the finale of Doctor Who.
Sneak peek at the link.
Doctor Who: Just watched the latest UK episode, and
...wow, that ending was unexpected. On the one hand, AGAIN?? But on the other hand, if he ends up having to play matchmaker between Amy and Rory, that could be kind of awesome. So, we'll see?
Hmm, I was all ready to believe that
the man River kills must be the Doctor, but now I think not! Same with her being his wife: too many references to them acting like a married couple, etc., so she's probably something else entirely. I like the theory that she has some connection to Amy. Either way, I guess we'll be seeing River again, which makes me happy. I found myself really liking her in this episode, though she's so very different from when we first met her in the library. Curious to see how she gets from here to there.
I think my favorite thing in the episode was
watching Amy's countdown (and realizing that's what she was doing). Eek!
And one thing that bugged:
I didn't like being able to see the angels moving -- that took away some of their creepiness, IMO.
What did you all make of
the scene when the Doctor is leaving Amy with the clerics, when the camera pans down to Amy's fidgeting hands -- and then the Doctor grabs them and tells her to remember what he told her when she was seven. I thought at first that she was hallucinating him, or else the angel in her mind was trying to startle her and get her to open her eyes, but neither of those theories seems to have panned out.
Kate, the theory is that
it's a future Eleven. Notice that he's wearing a jacket when Eleven in the episode had ditched it with the Angels. And that he pointedly glances in Eleven's direction as if to make sure he's not coming back to meet himself.
No comments on
Fringe
? I liked seeing Peter try to convince people that his life really is that crazy. The ending was no shocker, but aaah! Can't wait to see what happens next.
UK DW: If River Song isn't the Doctor's wife/lover, that makes all of the "You. Me. Handcuffs" sentences a lot more disturbing.
P-C: Awesome theory! Though, far too less empirical data for me to hold into it. From where?
Shir, try here: [link] (link contains spoilers for viewers on US schedule)
"Fringe" keeps on being awesome. Last night, Lea and I were wondering if Peter still had his FBI badge with him, and then he produced it. Then we were positing that, at this point, someone would have called in the Feds, and then Peter produced a plausible reason not to. All in all, a good little episode, and it was nice to see Peter have more to do than just stand around and be snarky. Plus Walter supermarket meltdown! And Walternate! Much, much fun.
Last night's
FlashForward
was written by Robert J. Sawyer, author of the book.