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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Shir - Apr 05, 2010 9:34:36 pm PDT #12527 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

DW: there's this blog in Hebrew that analyze so beautifully the show that I'd wish you were able to read it. Tidbits from there: All in all, the guy says that the relationship between Amy and the Doctor is a father-daughter relationship and not a romantic one, and that when the Doctor missed 12 years, he didn't leave Amy there for this time - I froze her there. So even if she still acts as grown up, she isn't. And that allows kids to get into the show, and that the past 4 seasons of DW were anomaly, and the scene where the aliens are watching all of the past Doctors and Smith says he's the Doctor meant to say that he's a direct continue to them - that the show is a direct continue to the original DW. He also says that if 10 were like 5, then 11 is more like 7.

But I really needed to translate this paragraph from there: "Whenever something strange happened with RTD [on board], it was accompanied by the same silly scene of terrorized and shocked masses in the street pointing at the skies and screaming. It didn't happened with Moffat. When the entire world broadcasts a message to "prisoner zero" and the sun suddenly change its color, people don't start screaming horrified: they pull their cell phones and take a picture of it. Moffat's world is more cynical and fade, than the emotional and colorful world of RTD. But it's much more closer to the real world. And in order to experience the world as the Doctor sees it, we have to turn to Amelia Pond."


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 9:45:51 pm PDT #12528 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

DW: I don't know about father/daughter--I don't look at my father that way when he strips. I'd never treat my father like that, period.


Fiona - Apr 05, 2010 11:33:26 pm PDT #12529 of 30001

Father/daughter squicks me out too, because there's obviously more going on. I disagree with most of the blog extracts, actually. Except the bit about Eleven stepping through the pictures of the previous incarnations of the Doctor to establish the continuity, but then that was completely obvious .

Amy obviously has emotional problems, many of which may be traceable to that one night. But that doesn't make her a child. Most other companions have had issues of one kind or another. I do wonder what happened to Amelia's parents, but I'm sure we'll find out at some point .


Shir - Apr 06, 2010 5:03:04 am PDT #12530 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I don't know. I like his analysis because it makes me look at the ep differently. I see your point about Amy being a grown up and making her own decisions, but his analysis made me understand from another point of view the point of view of a child Moffat entered into the TARDIS with. Even if I didn't agree with every word, I think he nailed the notion down. Amy is sill waiting for the Doctor to come with the TARDIS, even after 14 years and 4 psychiatrists. That's something that rationality and being a grown up who's gonna get married the following day can't take away from her. And honestly, I prefer to think of her journey as a child's journey, and not as an "in love with the Doctor. Yes, again" journey.


Tom Scola - Apr 06, 2010 5:36:03 am PDT #12531 of 30001
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tommyrot - Apr 06, 2010 5:38:14 am PDT #12532 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Viewers think new Doctor Who is 'too sexy'

The return of Doctor Who to television screens on Saturday night has led to a host of complaints and comments on online message boards that it is 'too sexy'.

What. Ev.


Shir - Apr 06, 2010 6:10:12 am PDT #12533 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Viewers think new Doctor Who is 'too sexy'

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2010 6:26:38 am PDT #12534 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did they miss the previous two Doctors? Because, bless Smith and everything, but NO.


Shir - Apr 06, 2010 6:30:02 am PDT #12535 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Perhaps they think that Tennant is beyond sexy.

Which is understandable.


Stephanie - Apr 06, 2010 7:12:15 am PDT #12536 of 30001
Trust my rage

Ha- I didn't want to be the one to say it, but this Doctor, while fine and Doctor-ish and all, is not sexy.

I actually had a post get eaten on Sunday where I basically said that yeah, I can accept him as the Doctor and he did well in the role, but he's just a bit too goofy for me. And I sort of miss the maudlin.