Can't any one of your damn little Scooby club at least try to remember that I hate you all?

Spike ,'Get It Done'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 6:53:26 am PDT #12456 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

ooh, that's an interesting idea - he is also working to get his son back.

After this long? I think he'd be more out for full-on vengeance. His world's dying (as hinted in previous episodes), his son was "kidnapped" and, I'm willing to bet, his wife left him after Peter dispapeared.

And remember, Walter was a bit of a bastard on his best days before he went crazy. I'm thinking full-on vengeance, justified by saving his own world at the cost of destroying Walter's, might not be out of line for his probable mindset.


Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2010 7:01:25 am PDT #12457 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C, I think BaldGuy #1 is the same entity, but they can travel freely between both worlds.

I meant Peter. The Observers said he was important. And he should have stayed on that side.

I would not be surprised if Walternate is the Big Bad. Or maybe Elizabeth. (Elizabeth Bishop, really, show?)


victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 7:02:52 am PDT #12458 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I would not be surprised if Walternate is the Big Bad. Or maybe Elizabeth. (Elizabeth Bishop, really, show?)

If she's the Big Bad, I guess the art of losing really IS hard to master ...


Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2010 7:14:03 am PDT #12459 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It would fit with the apparent real reason Peter ended up staying here. I'm not entirely sure how much I buy that Walter did intend to take Peter back: he didn't sound sincere talking to his assistant, but he did sound sincere talking to Olivia.


victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 7:24:01 am PDT #12460 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think he was fooling himself when he talked to his assistant, and to his Alternate Wife. He was pretty much done with delusion by the time he talked to Olivia.


Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2010 7:41:19 am PDT #12461 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hindsight is 20/20.


Mala - Apr 02, 2010 4:18:28 pm PDT #12462 of 30001

I absolutely get Walter thinking he was doing the noble thing and intending to take Peter back. It's just the kind of denial I'd be in in that situation.

What a wonderful and touching episode; I really enjoyed (Dr?) Warren interjecting religion and Oppenheimer into the mix.


victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 5:12:45 pm PDT #12463 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I really enjoyed (Dr?) Warren interjecting religion and Oppenheimer into the mix.

She said she has three PhD's, so she'd be a Dr.


Theodosia - Apr 03, 2010 2:59:56 am PDT #12464 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

That was one of the most affecting episodes of Fringe I've seen, and kudos for John Noble, who carried it so very well.

(Does this mean that Peter is the Kwisatz Haderach?)

And SGU wasn't shabby either!


Sophia Brooks - Apr 03, 2010 3:09:50 am PDT #12465 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I asked in natter, but does anyone know how they made Walter look so young?