Does anybody else think Walternate is the Big Bad behind the high-tech terrorists?
And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.
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victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 6:37:55 am PDT #12454 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
sumi - Apr 02, 2010 6:44:54 am PDT #12455 of 30001
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ooh, that's an interesting idea - he is also working to get his son back.
victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 6:53:26 am PDT #12456 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
ooh, that's an interesting idea - he is also working to get his son back.
After this long? I think he'd be more out for full-on vengeance. His world's dying (as hinted in previous episodes), his son was "kidnapped" and, I'm willing to bet, his wife left him after Peter dispapeared.
And remember, Walter was a bit of a bastard on his best days before he went crazy. I'm thinking full-on vengeance, justified by saving his own world at the cost of destroying Walter's, might not be out of line for his probable mindset.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2010 7:01:25 am PDT #12457 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
P-C, I think BaldGuy #1 is the same entity, but they can travel freely between both worlds.
I meant Peter. The Observers said he was important. And he should have stayed on that side.
I would not be surprised if Walternate is the Big Bad. Or maybe Elizabeth. (Elizabeth Bishop, really, show?)
victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 7:02:52 am PDT #12458 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I would not be surprised if Walternate is the Big Bad. Or maybe Elizabeth. (Elizabeth Bishop, really, show?)
If she's the Big Bad, I guess the art of losing really IS hard to master ...
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2010 7:14:03 am PDT #12459 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
It would fit with the apparent real reason Peter ended up staying here. I'm not entirely sure how much I buy that Walter did intend to take Peter back: he didn't sound sincere talking to his assistant, but he did sound sincere talking to Olivia.
victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 7:24:01 am PDT #12460 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I think he was fooling himself when he talked to his assistant, and to his Alternate Wife. He was pretty much done with delusion by the time he talked to Olivia.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2010 7:41:19 am PDT #12461 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Hindsight is 20/20.
Mala - Apr 02, 2010 4:18:28 pm PDT #12462 of 30001
I absolutely get Walter thinking he was doing the noble thing and intending to take Peter back. It's just the kind of denial I'd be in in that situation.
What a wonderful and touching episode; I really enjoyed (Dr?) Warren interjecting religion and Oppenheimer into the mix.
victor infante - Apr 02, 2010 5:12:45 pm PDT #12463 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I really enjoyed (Dr?) Warren interjecting religion and Oppenheimer into the mix.
She said she has three PhD's, so she'd be a Dr.