David Tennant's farewell speech on set.

Sighhh.....

Reason 4,691 I should be Trudy Tennant.

I thought that Mickey/Martha showed just how much character growth Mickey had gone through.

I mean we are a long way from "I'm the tin dog!" realization. He has built up to the potential he showed in the alternate reality (boyfriend notwithstanding).

Also, we don't know where in their time lines that scene was IRT Martha and Mickey, could be a couple years hence...

Good point, that could have been a dead husband down the road or whatever.

Good point, that could have been a dead husband down the road or whatever.

Heh. Ever so cheerful.

Also, we don't know where in their time lines that scene was IRT Martha and Mickey, could be a couple years hence...

I assumed that it was several years in the future, as evidenced by the full beard on Mickey and the different hair on Martha :)

Boston area-istas - The Brattle theater is showing Turn Left, Stolen Earth & Journey's End on Saturday. It starts at 9:30 pm, though, so it will go fairly late (they say 135 minutes, but it's GOT to be longer than that).

In re: Being Human, ita said:

FTR, I think the male werewolf in that story is just as much a victim--in fact, incredibly victimy, more than Oz or Veruca ever was. At least to start out.

I agree that he's very victim. But, at the same time, the constant conversation about "It's not me, it's a thing that happened to me, it's outside of me. Really, not me." Especially when contrasted, as Mitchel pointed out, by him using the first person to refer to the wolf in the finale, makes it a more nuanced metaphor. Especially with the impact it had on his relationship with Nina, and the bleedover into his "real life" around the moon, it isn't nearly as separate as Joss's werewolves.

I agree that Veruca, in particular, was not at all victimy, but (and it's been a few years) my recollection is that she was all about the sexy sexy Id/wolf and not the rip-things-to-shreds Id/wolf, which, to me, makes there be little metaphorical difference between vampire and werewolf. So, I really hope that Nina stays around, because I'd like to see someone actually do that story. She's always been pretty assertive, and for her to deal with what happens when your aggression has actual teeth (as opposed to the vampires, which are a sort of hybrid sexual/addiction metaphor) would be worth exploring.

I agree that Veruca, in particular, was not at all victimy, but (and it's been a few years) my recollection is that she was all about the sexy sexy Id/wolf and not the rip-things-to-shreds Id/wolf, which, to me, makes there be little metaphorical difference between vampire and werewolf.

I'd say she was about the sexy sexy Id when not a wolf and all about the rip-to-shreds Id when in wolf form. I'm curious if she wanted to be in wolf form to get rid of Willow because she couldn't bring herself to do it as a human, or if she just thought it would cover her tracks better (at least with the official authorities - Oz was going to see right through it).

As for Nina on Angel, I don't think she was any more victimy than Oz was at first. It looked like she got into the same routine of locking herself up around the moon (puppet!Angel just happened to get too close to the cage).

Nina on Angel reads to me as much as a disease metaphor as an id one: it's a condition you manage, rather than a part of your self to be incorporated, embraced, subdued, whatever.