Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Frankenbuddha - Jan 03, 2010 4:45:33 am PST #11567 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, may have been in the white font, but I loved that he called Donna his best friend, and so offhandedly.

I LOVED that!

Looks like I missed a bunch of the showouts (Frame went right past me and I never recognize Jessica Hynes on DW, though I got who the character was supposed to be).

Hope the teamed-up (as opposed to married-up) Martha Jones & Mickey means they'll be in the next iteration of Torchwood. Though that will make three coupled-up folks on the team if Gwen is back.


Barb - Jan 03, 2010 5:15:20 am PST #11568 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

I fall in the like it camp, for a lot of reasons. Yes, there were weaknesses, but a lot of the things that pinged many so badly didn't really get to me. The ranting didn't strike me so much as being anger at Wilf or anger with respect to the inevitable, but more a recognition of the irony of the situation. That this person he loves so much and who loves him so much would ultimately be the instrument of his death (and given how much speculation there was that Wilf and his gun would take out the Doctor, it did turn out to be true, just not in the obvious ways). That whole speech was to me, just full of all the love and the recognition that Wilf is a better person than he is and that the "little" person was ultimately the bigger person.

And the "I don't want to go," at the end to me wasn't whiny or self-indulgent-- just very, very human to me, which again speaks to the fact that Ten has always been the most human & humane of the incarnations. After flirting with the Master-like madness and megalomania at the end of "Waters of Mars" to me it was very poignant and had a feeling of completeness about it to see him react in such a very human way.

Loved that he referred to Donna has his best friend so unreservedly. Giggled at Captain Jack and yes, I recognized Frame and had a chuckle over that and while the Rose scene had a charm about it, with its timing, Donna's wedding and especially seeing Joan's great-granddaughter were the most poignant and special to me.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 03, 2010 6:44:37 am PST #11569 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Upon re-watch, I am much more fondly disposed toward the finale. Sometimes the buildup to the Big Moments tends to put me off the result easily.


Jon B. - Jan 03, 2010 7:11:21 am PST #11570 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Did anyone else catch that it was Midshipman Frame, from "Voyage of the Damned," that the Doctor hooked Jack up with?

That's great. I only recognized him from Being Human.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 03, 2010 7:15:10 am PST #11571 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Allons-y, Alonzo!


Frankenbuddha - Jan 03, 2010 7:28:38 am PST #11572 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I do kind of wish they had better delineated the Master's fate. Granted, that means he can come back again (and not necessarily as John Simm (sp?)), but I thought his final act deserved a bit of a follow-through, one way or the other, especially since he turned out to be a monster BECAUSE of the Time Lords.


Vortex - Jan 03, 2010 9:03:08 am PST #11573 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Did anyone else catch that it was Midshipman Frame, from "Voyage of the Damned," that the Doctor hooked Jack up with?

I recognized him, but couldn't have given you his name with a gun to my head.

Also, Mickey looked HAWT with the beard.


Stephanie - Jan 03, 2010 9:33:03 am PST #11574 of 30001
Trust my rage

I thought Mickey and Martha both looked great.


Anne W. - Jan 03, 2010 9:43:34 am PST #11575 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I want to see a Mickey-and-Martha spinoff.


Jessica - Jan 03, 2010 9:49:15 am PST #11576 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yet another end of decade list - 10 best SF second-in-commands.