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Regarding EoT, I liked the bones of the story, but think the script could have used a thorough working through, with some parts expanded and other parts trimmed or revised.
As for
the Doctor's speech and his decision to save Wilf, I think he that was the capstone on his post-WoM realization of just how close he had come (in Waters of Mars definitely, and even as far back as the Christmas Invasion) to becoming like the other Gallifreyans. I love the revelation that he did what he did in the Time War as much to stop his own people as to stop the Daleks. Dying to save one man--someone the Gallifreyans would have seen as expendable--was the biggest refutation he could have given to that.
My take on
the Woman in White is that she was Susan. When Wilf asked who she was, I thought the way Ten looked at Donna spoke to the grandfather/granddaughter relationship. I need to re-watch the bit where Timelord!Dalton said something about the Weeping Angels. Did anyone catch what he said clearly?
I would like to have seen more of
Donna and her new squeeze. From what little I saw of him, I rather liked him. I would have liked some hint that the money from the lottery ticket would have been used to fund their own adventures. I like the idea that Donna would go off and travel on her own, wthout the benefit of the TARDIS, and become through that the sort of person we saw her become on her travels with the Doctor.
The bit that made me laugh and squee
was the way the Doctor and then the Master both said "Get out of the way."
I think I'm the only person on the internet who unabashedly loved EoT2. I feel a bit weird about it - because I know there were huge flaws in the episode but for some reason they didn't bother me.
I agree with Seska about the Doctor's rant. I think it's because I recently rewatched the last few series and more and more the entire show seems like a meditation on death and loss. The tenth Doctor is always going on about "new life" and he runs and runs and runs - but death just stalks him. It's like Steven Moffat's line in Forest of the Dead, "Everybody knows that everybody dies and nobody knows it like the Doctor." I know a lot of people find DT's slightly manic take on the character annoying, but to me, it's like this constant, colossal effort to avoid the decaying elephant in the room.
And I don't think it's so much his own death that bothers him as it is all death. The Master looked into the void and went insane, but the Doctor ran away. In the Waters of Mars he literally takes on the entire universe in order to defeat death. I loved this last episode and the rant and the "I don't want to go" because it got him to a place where he sort of accepted death, but not really.
The Time Lord said something to the effect of
"They will cover their faces, to hide (or, "in") their shame, like the Weeping Angels of old," about the two dissenters
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"Worst! Rescue! Ever!!!" Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!
OK, I'm almost ready to say "get it over with already!" Almost. Because I'm tearing up!
Anyone else get the feeling the Doctor's regeneration seemed more like a Highlander quickening this time out?
I dunno, but I still love how mere clothing seems to contain the shiny radiance of regeneration, now with added TARDIS combustability. I was also really hoping for some comment about how the suit was far too small for 11.
