Xander: Look who's got a bad case of Dark Prince envy. Dracula: Leave us. Xander: No, we're not going to "Leabbb you." And where'd you get that accent, Sesame Street? "One, Two, Three - three victims! Maw ha ha!"

'Lessons'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Tom Scola - Dec 20, 2009 2:08:31 am PST #11288 of 30001
hwæt

They had a really annoying "gadget, gadget" robot in Water of Mars, and they made me love in him the end, too!


Zenkitty - Dec 20, 2009 3:03:04 am PST #11289 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Gadget Gadget was a good robot. I can't fathom how the world explained those three Mars people suddenly being back on Earth, or how the Doctor apparently thought everyone would just cheer and forget the utter impossibility of it.

No, I mean, I know the Doctor "dies" and regenerates as a new version of himself, but I thought they meant to kill him for reals. Not that they could without ending the show, but if he knows he's just going to pop up somewhere with a new body and some different personality quirks but the same memories and basically the same person, what is really the big deal about "dying"?

Granted, I ask this as someone who's seen maybe five episodes ever, so maybe it's quite clear to everyone else.


Tom Scola - Dec 20, 2009 3:10:51 am PST #11290 of 30001
hwæt

Zen, they're hyping this to a previously unseen degree this time around. It really shouldn't be this big a deal.

In completely unrelated news, Alison Moyet look amazing.


Zenkitty - Dec 20, 2009 3:21:56 am PST #11291 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Thanks, Tom.

Tennant was funny on Graham Norton. "Of course I've had a male assistant. Jack assisted me in all sorts of ways."


Theodosia - Dec 20, 2009 3:54:08 am PST #11292 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Wait... they showed Water of Mars in the US and I missed it?


Shir - Dec 20, 2009 4:02:19 am PST #11293 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Bring on Matt Smith!

Can't agree more. And I'm saying that will all my love to Tennant (hell, he's in my Famous Foursome!), and I'm very sad to see him leave. I do love him dearly.

But.

FFS, he has The Moffat at his side, people. The Moffat. This guy can write some shit that leaves me at the edge of the seat, heartbroken, craving and begging for more. I thought I'll never get used to Tennant after Eccleston, and the former became my favorite Doctor after 20 minutes on the screen. So with Moffat at his side, and his not-too-bad looks, I want to see where they'll take the Doctor, and me, next.


Barb - Dec 20, 2009 4:38:13 am PST #11294 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

Megalomaniacal Doctor bordering on Master-like crazy was CREEEEEEEEPY.

And watching The Doctor be so uncharacteristically still during that one long segment was completely unnerving and heartbreaking. David Tennant can convey more with his face that most actors can with the most eloquent oratory.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 20, 2009 4:53:04 am PST #11295 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Not that they could without ending the show, but if he knows he's just going to pop up somewhere with a new body and some different personality quirks but the same memories and basically the same person, what is really the big deal about "dying"?

They haven't explained this at all. But when he thought his daughter had died, he said "She was too much like me." The Doctor should have thirteen incarnations, but I think he believes that since Gallifrey is gone, he may not have many regenerations left. They should be explaining why he thinks that, of course, since he's already regenerated at least once (and used regeneration energy to stay the same another time) since the destruction of Gallifrey.


Shir - Dec 20, 2009 4:55:57 am PST #11296 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

It might not be dying-dying, but it is some sort of dying. That's how I always explained it to myself. Plus, he doesn't have endless regenerations, right?


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 20, 2009 5:04:16 am PST #11297 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Plus, he doesn't have endless regenerations, right?

Thirteen, as once stated in the pre-RTD series. But that could change - I wouldn't put it past the BBC/Moffat's team to write in a few more.

Edit: Twelve regenerations. Thirteen incarnations.