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Maysa - Nov 20, 2009 6:09:14 pm PST #11027 of 30001

I'd love an American Doctor, complete with American accent - or, indeed, any non-British incarnation. But given negative British reaction to the 'Americanizing' of the TV movie (which I quite liked, but many people didn't), it seemed that people still wanted their Doctor in British form back then.

It’s probably because I’ve got a weird love for British-ness, but I don't think the show would work if the Doctor was American (or anything else, really). How DW plays with history, mucks about, makes ordinary objects fantastical, and mocks most kinds of authority while still respecting others – it’s just British down to its bones. For me, it represents the best of the British imagination and its essence stems from the guy who's on the journey, the Doctor. If he wasn't British the whole show would change. It would be like setting Hogwarts down in Peoria.


beekaytee - Nov 20, 2009 6:14:06 pm PST #11028 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm with Maysa. I'd hate to see an American Doctor. The very Britishness of the show sustains me through the bad moment, however few they may be.

Americanizing it would just be one more disappointing, 'we have no imagination of our own' gesture.

That rumor about an American Being Human? I'm lookin' at you.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 6:23:54 pm PST #11029 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't see anything essentially British about Being Human. I just don't see any reason to remake it. Or have any faith it will be a quality job. But the story could have been told well the first time on these shores.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 20, 2009 6:27:25 pm PST #11030 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, I imagine it will follow the path of so many American remakes of perfectly good British series - right into the crapper. But the basic idea of an American version isn't an outrage the way it would be for Dr. Who or Brideshead Revisited.


Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2009 6:37:12 pm PST #11031 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

What about a Scottish Doctor? Or Welsh? Or Irish? Still out of the question?


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 20, 2009 6:40:22 pm PST #11032 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For some reason Welsh would seem more natural to me than Scottish or Irish. The other two seem to have more strongly separate national identities.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 6:43:23 pm PST #11033 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish--still British.


Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2009 6:46:24 pm PST #11034 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Umm, Isn't Northern Ireland specifically not Britain, even if it is part of the UK?


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 6:54:44 pm PST #11035 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I use the word British to mean UKian, for lack of another word. I hope I'm not causing offense.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 7:05:29 pm PST #11036 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wikipedia says that citizens of the UK are properly called British, which is what I always figured. Great Britain doesn't include any Ireland but the British Isles do. So I stand by my statement.